From: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
johnstul@us.ibm.com, Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de,
george@mvista.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
libc-alpha@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Posix compliant behavior of CLOCK_PROCESS/THREAD_CPUTIME_ID
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:57:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200410012157.i91LvlPj021414@magilla.sf.frob.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Christoph Lameter's message of Monday, 27 September 2004 13:58:12 -0700 <Pine.LNX.4.58.0409271344220.32308@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
Sorry I haven't replied sooner. I don't think the facility offered by your
patch is enough by itself to be worth doing. That information about a
process is already available to itself via getrusage/times, though those
don't offer a per-thread sample.
I have been working on an alternate patch that implements more complete CPU
clock functionality. This includes access to other threads' and process'
times, potentially finer-grained information (based on sched_clock), and
timers. I will post this code when it's ready, hopefully soon.
As to supporting clock_settime, I think that is just plain not desireable.
I am not aware of any actual demand for it, and POSIX certainly does not
require that it be permitted. It's certainly undesireable to let a process
reset its actual totals as reported by getrusage, process accounting, etc.;
I gather your later revisions have at least avoided that pitfall. But I
don't really see the utility in letting applications use clock_settime on
their CPU clocks either. They can just save the starting value at the time
they would use clock_settime to reset it to zero, and compute the delta later.
Thanks,
Roland
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-01 22:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <B6E8046E1E28D34EB815A11AC8CA312902CD3264@mtv-atc-605e--n.corp.sgi.com>
2004-09-24 12:16 ` [time] add support for CLOCK_THREAD_CPUTIME_ID and CLOCK_PROCESS_CPUTIME_ID Christoph Lameter
2004-09-25 4:25 ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-09-25 5:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-25 5:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-25 6:08 ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-09-25 14:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-25 15:19 ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-09-27 15:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-27 15:34 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <B6E8046E1E28D34EB815A11AC8CA312902CD327E@mtv-atc-605e--n.corp.sgi.com>
2004-09-27 20:58 ` [RFC] Posix compliant behavior of CLOCK_PROCESS/THREAD_CPUTIME_ID Christoph Lameter
2004-09-27 22:54 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-28 19:18 ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-09-28 19:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-29 3:25 ` Posix compliant CLOCK_PROCESS/THREAD_CPUTIME_ID V4 Christoph Lameter
2004-09-29 17:45 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-29 18:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-29 19:27 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-29 19:34 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-29 19:52 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-09-30 0:14 ` patches inline in mail George Anzinger
2004-09-30 3:24 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-01 5:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-01 12:28 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-01 13:42 ` Paul Fulghum
2004-10-01 19:53 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-01 21:58 ` George Anzinger
2004-10-02 15:52 ` Olaf Dietsche
2004-10-02 15:20 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-03 21:01 ` [OT] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-10-03 23:18 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-10-04 6:20 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-04 19:11 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-10-04 7:26 ` Ulrich Windl
2004-10-03 21:35 ` George Anzinger
2004-10-04 3:00 ` Jim Nelson
2004-10-01 9:04 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-09-29 19:32 ` Posix compliant CLOCK_PROCESS/THREAD_CPUTIME_ID V5 Christoph Lameter
2004-10-01 19:57 ` Posix compliant cpu clocks V6 [0/3]: Rationale and test program Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <B6E8046E1E28D34EB815A11AC8CA31290322B307@mtv-atc-605e--n.corp.sgi.com>
2004-10-01 19:59 ` Posix compliant cpu clocks V6 [1/3]: Generic Kernel patch Christoph Lameter
2004-10-01 21:03 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-01 20:01 ` Posix compliant cpu clocks V6 [2/3]: Glibc patch Christoph Lameter
2004-10-02 5:32 ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-10-04 15:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-10-04 16:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-10-06 13:53 ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-01 20:02 ` Posix compliant cpu clocks V6 [3/3]: mmtimer provides CLOCK_SGI_CYCLE Christoph Lameter
2004-10-07 4:56 ` Posix compliant cpu clocks V7 [0/2]: Rationale and test program Christoph Lameter
2004-10-12 20:19 ` Periodic posix timer support broke between 2.6.9-rc1 and 2.6.9-rc1-bk17 Christoph Lameter
2004-10-12 22:24 ` George Anzinger
2004-10-13 18:08 ` Alexander Nyberg
2004-10-13 18:11 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <B6E8046E1E28D34EB815A11AC8CA31290322B331@mtv-atc-605e--n.corp.sgi.com>
2004-10-07 4:57 ` Posix compliant cpu clocks V7 [1/2]: Kernel Patch Christoph Lameter
2004-10-07 4:59 ` Posix compliant cpu clocks V7 [2/2]: Glibc patch Christoph Lameter
2004-10-21 19:32 ` Posix compliant process clock patch for the linux arch in glibc Christoph Lameter
2004-10-01 21:57 ` Roland McGrath [this message]
2004-10-01 23:30 ` [RFC] Posix compliant behavior of CLOCK_PROCESS/THREAD_CPUTIME_ID Christoph Lameter
2004-10-04 18:48 ` RFC: Posix compliant clock_getclockcpuid(pid) to access other processes clocks Christoph Lameter
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