From: "Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>
To: "'Ingo Molnar'" <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "'Ingo Molnar'" <mingo@redhat.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, "'Andrew Morton'" <akpm@osdl.org>,
"'Nick Piggin'" <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: RE: Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:18:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200410061718.i96HI9606629@unix-os.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041006074815.GC1137@elte.hu>
> Chen, Kenneth W wrote on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:31 AM
> > We have experimented with similar thing, via bumping up sd->cache_hot_time to
> > a very large number, like 1 sec. What we measured was a equally low throughput.
> > But that was because of not enough load balancing.
>
> Since we are talking about load balancing, we decided to measure various
> value for cache_hot_time variable to see how it affects app performance. We
> first establish baseline number with vanilla base kernel (default at 2.5ms),
> then sweep that variable up to 1000ms. All of the experiments are done with
> Ingo's patch posted earlier. Here are the result (test environment is 4-way
> SMP machine, 32 GB memory, 500 disks running industry standard db transaction
> processing workload):
>
> cache_hot_time | workload throughput
> --------------------------------------
> 2.5ms - 100.0 (0% idle)
> 5ms - 106.0 (0% idle)
> 10ms - 112.5 (1% idle)
> 15ms - 111.6 (3% idle)
> 25ms - 111.1 (5% idle)
> 250ms - 105.6 (7% idle)
> 1000ms - 105.4 (7% idle)
>
> Clearly the default value for SMP has the worst application throughput (12%
> below peak performance). When set too low, kernel is too aggressive on load
> balancing and we are still seeing cache thrashing despite the perf fix.
> However, If set too high, kernel gets too conservative and not doing enough
> load balance.
Ingo Molnar wrote on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 12:48 AM
> could you please try the test in 1 msec increments around 10 msec? It
> would be very nice to find a good formula and the 5 msec steps are too
> coarse. I think it would be nice to test 7,9,11,13 msecs first, and then
> the remaining 1 msec slots around the new maximum. (assuming the
> workload measurement is stable.)
I should've post the whole thing yesterday, we had measurement of 7.5 and
12.5 ms. Here is the result (repeating 5, 10, 15 for easy reading).
5 ms 106.0
7.5 ms 110.3
10 ms 112.5
12.5 ms 112.0
15 ms 111.6
> > This value was default to 10ms before domain scheduler, why does domain
> > scheduler need to change it to 2.5ms? And on what bases does that decision
> > take place? We are proposing change that number back to 10ms.
>
> agreed. What value does cache_decay_ticks have on your box?
I see all the fancy calculation with cache_decay_ticks on x86, but nobody
actually uses it in the domain scheduler. Anyway, my box has that value
hard coded to 10ms (ia64).
- Ken
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-06 17:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-06 0:42 Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 0:47 ` Con Kolivas
2004-10-06 1:02 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06 0:58 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06 3:55 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06 4:30 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06 4:51 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06 5:00 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06 5:09 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06 5:21 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06 5:33 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06 5:46 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06 6:19 ` new dev model (was Re: Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms) Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06 6:39 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06 8:56 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-06 9:44 ` bert hubert
2004-10-06 14:00 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-10-06 19:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06 19:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06 19:58 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06 20:37 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-07 1:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-07 0:02 ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-06 9:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 9:57 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-06 19:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06 22:23 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-06 5:52 ` Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 19:27 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 19:39 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06 20:38 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 20:43 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06 23:14 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-07 2:26 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-07 6:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-07 7:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-07 7:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 20:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 21:03 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 7:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 17:18 ` Chen, Kenneth W [this message]
2004-10-06 19:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 22:46 ` Peter Williams
2004-10-06 13:29 ` [patch] sched: auto-tuning task-migration Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 13:44 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06 17:49 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-06 20:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-06 21:18 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-10-07 6:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-02-21 5:08 ` Paul Jackson
[not found] <200410071028.01931.habanero@us.ibm.com>
2004-10-07 15:58 ` Default cache_hot_time value back to 10ms Andrew Theurer
2004-10-08 9:47 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-08 14:11 ` Andrew Theurer
2004-10-07 18:44 Albert Cahalan
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