From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S270005AbUJHPOp (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Oct 2004 11:14:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270013AbUJHPOp (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Oct 2004 11:14:45 -0400 Received: from out004pub.verizon.net ([206.46.170.142]:59013 "EHLO out004.verizon.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S270005AbUJHPOH (ORCPT ); Fri, 8 Oct 2004 11:14:07 -0400 From: Gene Heskett Reply-To: gene.heskett@verizon.net Organization: Organization: None, detectable by casual observers To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Possible GPL Violation of Linux in Amstrad's E3 Videophone Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 11:14:05 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 Cc: Bruce Ferrell , Linus Torvalds , Jon Masters , jmerkey@galt.devicelogics.com, Jesper Juhl , "Jeff V. Merkey" , Dave Jones , Kyle Moffett , "jmerkey@comcast.net" , Alan Cox References: <35fb2e590410011509712b7d1@mail.gmail.com> <200410080838.33268.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <41669AA4.9050503@baywinds.org> In-Reply-To: <41669AA4.9050503@baywinds.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410081114.05249.gene.heskett@verizon.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out004.verizon.net from [151.205.50.25] at Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:14:06 -0500 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Friday 08 October 2004 09:48, Bruce Ferrell wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: [...] >> >> Yeah there are Jon, and his initials are probably BG. I've been >> following this thread, first in amazement, followed by disbelief, >> since it started yesterday, and the only thing my 6th sense is >> telling me is that this is an attempt to undermine the GPL by >> someone like M$ so that they can take it to court and successfully >> render it moot. >> >> At one point he's talking about $50,000 for a snapshot, then next >> he's saying $50,000 per copyright holder, and how that would end >> up being millions. A new story with almost every message, and >> coming from several addresses, at one point from drdos.com, so I >> went over to see if he was actually listed there but couldn't find >> a reference. Ditto for the *panogas address. And I haven't looked >> at comcast as that is an ISP with several million addresses IIRC. >> >> This old (70, and more user than coder now) fart associate member >> of the FSF is more and more convinced he's a troll, out only to >> contaminate the GPL and a few million to do that is just chicken >> feed to his backers. And make no mistake, the sucessfull >> contamination of the GPL could be worth many billions of dollars >> to M$ et all. Thats the most obvious 'SWAG' candidate as the real >> source of all this largess. >> >> My $0.02: Deal with the likes of him at the peril of the GPL. >> >> Here's another question that needs answered too, why the hell >> isn't Linus in the To: or Cc: list? (He is now!) After all, his >> approval would be the first thing you would need, isn't it Jeff? >> Again, one more clue that this looks like the fox, trying to sneak >> in under the henhouse radar. > >A bit of a historical note is in order. Jeff used to work for > Novell... And had more than a small dispute with them over some > linux code he did that allowed linux to, as I recall, do things > with netware 4.x. Novell took exception as at the time the only > other code that did it was closed source distributed through > Caldera. I see, so there is a personal axe to grind here also. I wasn't aware of that. That places this a lot closer to the trolling scenario (and a waste of time and bandwidth) than a fox in the henhouse then. And the troll certainly cannot write a check of sufficient magnitude to be interesting. All in all, an enlightening thread now, thank you to those that were there to record history. :-) -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.27% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.