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From: Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@exanet.com>
Cc: Yasushi Saito <ysaito@hpl.hp.com>,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	suparna@in.ibm.com, Janet Morgan <janetmor@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2]  aio: add vectored I/O support
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:14:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041017001409.GH17142@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41715A5F.2060006@exanet.com>

On Sat, Oct 16, 2004 at 07:29:03PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> No. An iovec is already merged; it is known that adjacent segments of an 
> iovec have adjacent offsets. a single IO_CMD_READV iovec can generate a 
> single bio without any merging.

	A slightly embarrassed glance at the manpage later, I recall
that fact.  Something I never liked about writev(), but that's a moot
point.

> That's not what I meant. If you submit 16 iocbs which are merged by the 
> kernel, and there is an error somewhere within the seventh iocb, I would 
> expect to get 15 success completions and one error completion. so error 
> information from the merged iocb must be demultiplexed into the originals.

	This takes no effort, really, for the kernel.  The block layer
handles it.

> If you have a single iocb, then any error simply fails that iocb.

	True, but in some senses (and this is application specific) you
want to know that 15/16ths succeeded.  But we're talking about
application needs, not kernel design.  So it's moot for the technical
argument of whether READV is a useful operation.  I just wanted to have
the discussion.  It wasn't an objection per se.

> I think what happened was that the number of iocbs submitted (64 iocbs 
> of 4K each) did not merge because the device queue depth was very large; 
> no queuing occured because (I imagine) merging happens while a request 
> is waiting for disk readiness.

	Why did you submit 64 iocbs of 4K?  Was every page virtually
discontiguous, or did you arbitrarily decide to create a worst-case?

Joel

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-17  0:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-14 20:10 Yasushi Saito
2004-10-16  3:13 ` Joel Becker
2004-10-16  5:18   ` Avi Kivity
2004-10-16  5:37     ` Joel Becker
2004-10-16  8:43       ` Avi Kivity
2004-10-16 16:28         ` Joel Becker
2004-10-16 17:29           ` Avi Kivity
2004-10-17  0:14             ` Joel Becker [this message]
2004-10-17  6:25               ` Avi Kivity
2004-10-16 12:05       ` William Lee Irwin III

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