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From: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>
To: Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: readdir loses renamed files
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:29:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041025082910.GA17089@taniwha.stupidest.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <431547F9-2624-11D9-8AC3-000393CC2E90@iki.fi>

On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 04:21:57AM +0300, Timo Sirainen wrote:

> My problem is that mails in a large maildir get temporarily
> lost. This happens because readdir() never returns a file which was
> just rename()d by another process. Either new or the old name would
> have been fine, but it's not returned at all.

i don't think there are well defined semantics for this, it's
intrinsically hard to make it work the way you want for a number of
reasons (and what they are depends on the underlying fs)

> Is there a chance this could get fixed? Every OS/filesystem I've
> tested so far has had the same problem

i'll argue it's an application bug

> so I'll have to implement some extra locking anyway (so much for
> maildir being lockless), but it would be nice to have at least one
> OS where it works without the extra locking overhead.

why do you need extra locking?  the next time the maildir is scanned
the message(s) will appear surely?



  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-25  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-25  1:21 Timo Sirainen
2004-10-25  8:29 ` Chris Wedgwood [this message]
2004-10-25 12:35   ` Timo Sirainen
2004-10-25 12:47     ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-10-25 12:37 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-10-25 13:22   ` Timo Sirainen
2004-10-28  9:34   ` Matthias Andree
2004-10-28 11:44     ` Andreas Dilger
2004-10-28 14:34       ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-10-28 15:41       ` Matthias Andree
2004-10-29 21:15       ` Hans Reiser
2004-10-29 21:28         ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-10-30 19:11           ` Hans Reiser
2004-10-31  6:32             ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-01  5:38               ` Hans Reiser
2004-10-28 17:06     ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-10-28 19:00       ` Bernd Eckenfels

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