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From: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
To: Patrick Mau <mau@oscar.ping.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Workaround for wrapping loadaverage
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 19:51:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041109185103.GE29661@mail.13thfloor.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041109004335.GA1822@oscar.prima.de>

On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 01:43:35AM +0100, Patrick Mau wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 03:50:51PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > 
> > (PLease don't remove people from Cc:.  Just do reply-to-all).
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> sorry, I usually remove people from CC if they're subscribed.
> 
> > Patrick Mau <mau@oscar.ping.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you would use 236, 252 and 255 the last to load calculations would
> > > get optimized into register shifts during calculation. The precision
> > > would be bad, but I personally don't mind loosing the fraction.
> > 
> > What would be the impact on the precision if we were to use 8 bits of
> > fraction?
> 
> I didn't have time to check again, but I think I ended up with a load of 0.97
> using one runnable process because of rounding errors.
> 
> > An upper limit of 1024 tasks sounds a bit squeezy.  Even 8192 is a bit
> > uncomfortable.  Maybe we should just reimplement the whole thing, perhaps
> > in terms of tuples of 32-bit values: 32 bits each side of the binary point?
> 
> We re-calculate the load every 5 seconds. I think it would be OK to
> use more bits/registers, it's not that frequently called.

hmm ...

	do_timer() -> update_times() -> calc_load()

so not exactly every 5 seconds ...

but I agree that a higher resolution would be a good
idea ... also doing the calculation when the number
of running/uninterruptible processes has changed would
be a good idea ...

(I implemented something similar for linux-vserver, 
 if there is interest, I could adapt it for mainline)

> It's 1:30 AM and I had a rough working day, maybe I'll prepare a little patch
> tomorrow. I think that 8192 _runnable_ processes seems a bit unusual, but we
> also account for uninterruptable processes. Maybe there was some swap/IO
> storm that triggered the initial overflow, I'll have to check that first.

best,
Herbert

> Best regards,
> Patrick
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-09 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-08  0:19 Patrick Mau
2004-11-08  9:27 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-08 10:25   ` Patrick Mau
2004-11-08 23:50     ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09  0:43       ` Patrick Mau
2004-11-09 18:51         ` Herbert Poetzl [this message]
2004-11-09 21:49           ` Con Kolivas
2004-11-10  6:20             ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-11-10  9:57               ` Con Kolivas
2004-11-10  7:07           ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10 23:31             ` Herbert Poetzl

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