From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: dwmw2@infradead.org, hch@infradead.org, torvalds@osdl.org,
davidm@snapgear.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
uclinux-dev@uclinux.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VM routine fixes
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 03:43:53 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041111034353.00d35589.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24698.1100172576@redhat.com>
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 11:01 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > Why _does_ !CONFIG_MMU futz around with page counts in such weird ways
> > > > anyway? Why does it have requirements for higher-order pages which
> > > > differ from !CONFIG_MMU?
>
> The problem is ptrace() and various /proc/<pid/ files; or more properly, the
> problem is access_process_vm() and suchlike.
>
> When one process goes rooting around in another process's memory map, it
> increments the refcount on the page it is looking at to stop it going away.
>
> The problem on uClinux is that a process can have multipage chunks mapped into
> userspace, and access_process_vm() can look at a page in the middle of such a
> span.
>
> Without this change, bad_page() is called when access_process_vm() calls a
> put_page() on a page in the middle because its refcount would say it's no
> longer in use and then put_page() would then attempt to free the page.
>
> access_process_vm() guards against the target page going away due to the
> target process exiting at an inconvenient moment by pinning the target mm and
> holding its semaphore.
Compound pages will fix all that up. You take a ref on any of the subpages
and that will pin the entire higher-order page.
> > I assume the CONFIG_MMU logic assumes that it's legal to physically free a
> > single page from inside the middle of a higher-order page.
>
> No, it isn't. munmap() is prohibited from releasing anything other than a
> complete mmap() on uClinux.
hrm. I'd have thought that such a restriction would be unnecessary if we
get the page refcounting done right. With, say, compound pages!
Maybe the restriction is there for other reasons.
> > See, if we enable the compound page logic if !CONFIG_MMU then all this
> > stuff just goes away and the page refcounting is controlled purely by the
> > head page. A get_page() or a put_page() against any of the constituent
> > pages will manipulate the head page's refcount.
>
> That's true to a point, and probably a reasonable idea, assuming that compound
> pages aren't limited in size to TLB-specific values. If they are, then it
> makes no real difference.
Compound pages are just a way of handling refcounting of a higher-order
page. Nothing to do with TLBs at all.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-11 11:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-08 14:32 dhowells
2004-11-09 12:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-09 13:53 ` David Howells
2004-11-09 14:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-10 13:37 ` David Howells
2004-11-10 19:01 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-11 1:17 ` David Woodhouse
2004-11-11 2:26 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-11 11:29 ` David Howells
2004-11-11 11:43 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-11-11 12:03 ` David Howells
2004-11-11 22:31 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-12 10:33 ` David Howells
2004-11-12 10:38 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-12 11:05 ` David Howells
2004-11-14 5:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-15 13:14 ` David Howells
2004-11-15 15:35 ` Linus Torvalds
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