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From: Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@compuserve.com>
To: Bernd Eckenfels <ecki-news2004-05@lina.inka.de>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: deadlock with 2.6.9
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:45:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200411122248_MC3-1-8E97-BFE6@compuserve.com> (raw)

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 at 09:22:14 +0100 Bernd Eckenfels wrote:

> > Get a real RAID controller (3Ware, not some crappy pseudo-RAID junk.)  They are
> > much more reliable than software RAID.
>
> On what sample do you base this claim?
>
> Generally hardware raid sooner or later makes problems (especially if you
> run raid5 in degenerate mode or try to rebuild by disk replacing with
> differen/old signature). Also bus hangs are commonly not very well received
> by hw raid firmware or drivers.

  I had 28 mirror sets on Compaq SMART2/p controllers in one server (four
controllers, two SCSI channels each, seven disks per channel.)  All the disks
on channel A of each controller were mirrored to those on channel B, so even
complete failure of one channel didn't cause a problem.

  Once a disk was marked 'failed' in the controller NVRAM there was no way to
convince it that some newly-inserted disk contained valid data.

  Booting up with SCSI cables connected wrongly (channels A and B swapped) got you
a nice error message informing you of this fact.  Swapping SCSI IDs on different
disks on the same channel was also detected and reported nicely.

  And attempting to boot with a bad cable (bent pin) gave a message saying 'either
power down NOW and check cables or I will mark every disk on that channel as
failed.'

  Of course this system was 100% Compaq; even the disks had Compaq firmware
though the labels said IBM.  And it was very expensive...


--Chuck Ebbert  12-Nov-04  22:42:32

             reply	other threads:[~2004-11-13  3:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-13  3:45 Chuck Ebbert [this message]
2004-11-15 20:23 ` Bill Davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-11-08  1:11 Chuck Ebbert
2004-11-07  5:55 Chuck Ebbert
2004-11-07  7:49 ` Chris Stromsoe
2004-11-07  7:53   ` Chris Stromsoe
2004-11-07  8:22 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-11-02  7:03 Chris Stromsoe
2004-11-04 17:01 ` Chris Stromsoe
2004-11-06 22:36   ` Chris Stromsoe

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