From: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
mingo@elte.hu, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, ahu@ds9a.nl,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Futex queue_me/get_user ordering
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 14:47:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041118194726.GX10340@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041118072058.GA19965@mail.shareable.org>
On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 07:20:58AM +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Do you have an answer for whether the behaviour of (a) is a bug or
> not? I don't know if it's a bug, or if that part of NPTL behaviour is
> acceptable under POSIX. Even if it's acceptable, you might decide
> it's not acceptable quality to do that.
Not sure what you mean by (a) there, so assuming you meant 1.
If pthread_cond_{signal,broadcast} is called with the condvar's associated
mutex held, then the standard is pretty clear when a thread is considered
blocked in pthread_cond_*wait on the condvar, as releasing the mutex and
getting blocked on the condvar in pthread_cond_*wait shall be observed as
atomic by other threads. If pthread_cond_{signal,broadcast} is called
without the mutex held, it is not that clear.
Anyway, pthread_cond_signal is supposed to wake at least one thread
blocked in pthread_cond_*wait (if there are any).
The scenario described in futex_wait-fix.patch IMHO can happen even
if all calls to pthread_cond_signal are done with mutex held around it, i.e.
A B X Y
pthread_mutex_lock (&mtx);
pthread_cond_wait (&cv, &mtx);
- mtx release *)
total++ [1/0/0] (0) {}
pthread_mutex_lock (&mtx);
pthread_cond_signal (&cv);
- wake++ [1/1/0] (1) {}
FUTEX_WAKE, 1 (returns, nothing is queued)
pthread_mutex_unlock (&mtx);
pthread_mutex_lock (&mtx);
pthread_cond_wait (&cv, &mtx);
- mtx release *)
total++ [2/1/0] (1) {}
FUTEX_WAIT, 0
queue_me [2/1/0] (1) {A}
0 != 1
FUTEX_WAIT, 1
queue_me [2/1/0] (1) {A,B}
1 == 1
pthread_mutex_lock (&mtx);
pthread_cond_signal (&cv);
- wake++ [2/2/0] (2) {A,B}
FUTEX_WAKE, 1 (unqueues incorrectly A)
[2/2/0] (2) {B}
pthread_mutex_unlock (&mtx);
try to dequeue but already dequeued
would normally return EWOULDBLOCK here
but as unqueue_me failed, returns 0
woken++ [2/2/1] (2) {B}
schedule_timeout (forever)
- mtx reacquire
pthread_cond_wait returns
pthread_mutex_unlock (&mtx);
-------------------
the code would like to say pthread_mutex_unlock (&mtx);
and pthread_exit here, but never reaches there.
Now, if at this point say A pthread_join's B, Y pthread_join's A and
X pthread_join's Y, the program should eventually finish, as B must have
been woken up according to the standard. Whether signal in X means
pthread_cond_wait in A returning first or pthread_cond_wait in B returning
first is I believe not defined unless special scheduling policy is used,
as both A and B are supposed to contend for mtx lock.
But I believe both A and B must be awaken, assuming no other thread attempts
to acquire mtx afterwards.
*) therefore other threads that acquire mtx can now consider A blocked on
the condvar
Jakub
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-18 19:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20041113164048.2f31a8dd.akpm@osdl.org>
2004-11-14 9:00 ` Futex queue_me/get_user ordering (was: 2.6.10-rc1-mm5 [u]) Emergency Services Jamie Lokier
2004-11-14 9:09 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-14 9:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-11-14 9:50 ` bert hubert
2004-11-15 14:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-11-16 8:30 ` Futex queue_me/get_user ordering Hidetoshi Seto
2004-11-16 14:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-11-18 1:29 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2004-11-15 0:58 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2004-11-15 2:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-11-15 3:06 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2004-11-15 13:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-11-17 8:47 ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-11-18 2:10 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2004-11-18 7:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-11-18 19:47 ` Jakub Jelinek [this message]
2005-03-17 10:26 ` Jakub Jelinek
2005-03-17 15:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-03-17 15:55 ` Jakub Jelinek
2005-03-18 17:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-03-21 2:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-03-18 16:53 ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-11-26 17:06 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-11-28 17:36 ` Joe Seigh
2004-11-29 11:24 ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-11-29 21:50 ` Jamie Lokier
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