From: mcgrof@studorgs.rutgers.edu (Luis R. Rodriguez)
To: Steve Hill <steve@nexusuk.org>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@studorgs.rutgers.edu>,
prism54-devel@prism54.org, prism54-users@prism54.org,
Netdev <netdev@oss.sgi.com>,
Jean Tourrilhes <jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Prism54-users] Open hardware wireless cards
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:36:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050105203645.GO5159@ruslug.rutgers.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0501052017380.5818@rivendell.nexusuk.org>
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On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 08:22:10PM +0000, Steve Hill wrote:
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> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
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> >What I think we probably will have to do is just work torwards seeing if
> >we can come up with our own open wireless hardware. I know there was
> >a recent thread on lkml about an open video card -- anyone know where
> >that ended up?
>
> This may be a silly point, but there *was* good 802.11g hardware available
> which worked well with the fully open drivers.
Yes, that would be the Full MAC prism chipsets with the linux prism54 driver,
which I help maintain.
> I presume the
> manufacturers are moving to the "softmac" design instead because (for
> them) it is cheaper.
That is correct. They have already moved to the Softmac design and
you're lucky if you can buy FullMAC chipsets in stores now.
> However, the point is that the working designs are
> already there and it may be that buying the existing design which is being
> phased out is cheaper for the FOSS community than developing a whole new
> open device.
Definitely, I agree. Anyone have an idea of how much buying a wireless
chipset design may cost?
> Maybe it would be possible to convince one of the manufacturers that it's
> worth their while producing the older design hardware - if there is a
> single manufacturer who is making more or less the only hardware that is
> guaranteed to work under Linux there is probably quite a market for them.
I think they made the move because of economics as you mentioned
earlier. Under the current circumstances, I find it hard to be able to
Convince Conexant, for example, to start selling FullMAC chipsets again.
AFAICT the FullMAC chipsets have reached the END OF LIFE period.
Luis
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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20050105192447.GJ5159@ruslug.rutgers.edu>
2005-01-05 20:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2005-01-05 20:14 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-01-05 20:48 ` linux-os
2005-01-05 21:35 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-01-05 21:09 ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-01-08 20:47 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-09 9:59 ` Norbert van Nobelen
2005-01-09 22:28 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-01-09 23:00 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-05 20:17 ` Raphael Jacquot
2005-01-05 20:26 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2005-01-06 8:02 ` Norbert van Nobelen
2005-01-06 17:24 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2005-01-06 17:37 ` Lee Revell
2005-01-06 17:38 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2005-01-06 17:42 ` Lee Revell
2005-01-06 19:06 ` Norbert van Nobelen
[not found] ` <1105044024.15770.7.camel@krustophenia.net>
2005-01-06 20:51 ` Norbert van Nobelen
2005-01-06 17:59 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-06 20:25 ` Lee Revell
2005-01-07 10:37 ` Aaron Lehmann
2005-01-06 19:11 ` Raphael Jacquot
2005-01-06 19:32 ` Norbert van Nobelen
2005-01-06 21:00 ` Lee Revell
2005-01-06 21:24 ` Lennart Sorensen
2005-01-06 21:39 ` Jim Nelson
2005-01-06 21:42 ` Norbert van Nobelen
2005-01-08 11:58 ` Paul Jakma
2005-01-06 21:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-05 20:22 ` [Prism54-users] " Steve Hill
2005-01-05 20:36 ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2005-01-05 22:19 ` christos gentsis
2005-04-19 19:07 ` Karel Kulhavy
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