On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 11:22:49AM +0100, Wichert Akkerman scribbled: > Previously Marek Habersack wrote: > > So it sounds that we, the men-in-the-crowd are really left out in the crowd, > > people who are affected the most by the issues. Since the vendors are not > > affected by the bugs (playing a devil's advocate here), since they fix them > > for their machines as they appear, way before they get public. > > vendor suffer from that as well. Suppose vendors learn of a problem in > a product they visibly use such as apache or rsync. If all vendors > suddenly update their versions or disable things that will be noticed as > well, so vendors can't do that. So yet another reason why such closed list does more harm than good - it hurts security, if what you said above does happen. regards, marek