From: Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw@lug-owl.de>
To: Paulo Marques <pmarques@grupopie.com>
Cc: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-Input <linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFT] [patch] Elo serial touchscreen driver
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:58:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050209195854.GJ10594@lug-owl.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <420A518A.9040500@grupopie.com>
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On Wed, 2005-02-09 18:08:10 +0000, Paulo Marques <pmarques@grupopie.com>
wrote in message <420A518A.9040500@grupopie.com>:
> >>Additionally, there are two other things that need to be addressed (and
> >>I'm willing to actually write code for this, but need input from other
> >>parties, too:)
> >>
> >> - Touchscreen calibration
> >> Basically all these touchscreens are capable of being
> >> calibrated. It's not done with just pushing the X/Y
> >> values the kernel receives into the Input API. These
> >> beasts may get physically mis-calibrated and eg. report
> >> things like (xmax - xmin) <= 20, so resolution would be
> >> really bad and kernel reported min/max values were only
> >> "theoretical" values, based on the protocol specs.
> >> I think about a simple X11 program for this. Comments?
>
> Touch screens doing this are severely brain-damaged. And yes, I've come
> across a few of them, but not lately.
That's IMHO not brain-damaged, but pure physics: just consider scratches
or dust (or other substances) applied to the touch foil. This happens
all the time, so the touch screen gets out of calibration. This won't
happen on a screen used only twice a day. But think about a touch screen
that's tortured all the day with pencils, finger rings, dirty fingers,
...
> I would say that a tool to recover the touch screen into a "usable"
> state, by talking directly to the serial port, and "calibrating" it to
> max possible / min possible values would be the best way to deal with this.
Min/Max values (as of protocol theory) is possibly not the very best you
can do with the hardware. I more thing about submitting these (after
physical calibration) to the kernel driver to supply them to it's users.
> Modern touchscreens just send the A/D data to the PC, and let the real
> processor do the math (it can even do more complex calculations, like
> compensate for rotation, etc.). IMHO calibration should be handled by
> software.
Is this done eg. by Elo, Mutouch, Fujitsu, T-Sharc (to only name the
most common)? I don't think so...
> >> - POS keyboards
> >> These are real beasties. Next to LEDs and keycaps, they
> >> can contain barcode scanners, magnetic card readers and
> >> displays. Right now, there's no good API to pass
> >> something as complex as "three-track magnetic stripe
> >> data" or a whole scanned EAN barcode. Also, some
> >> keyboards can be written to (change display contents,
> >> switch on/off scanners, ...).
> >
> >
> >We probably don't want magnetic stripe data to go through the input
> >event stream (although it is possible to do that), so a new interface
> >would be most likely necessary.
>
> It's even worse. Most keyboards don't separate the real keys from
> magnetic stripe reader events, and just simulate key presses for MSR
> data. They expect the software to be in a state where it is waiting for
> that data, and will process it accordingly.
This only happens if you don't configurethe MSR properly :-) Most of
them can be configured to send quite complex (as in: structured) init
sequences that cannot be generated by a keyboard (ie multiple break
codes without make codes and the like).
MfG, JBG
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-09 19:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-08 16:42 Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-08 16:54 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-02-09 13:23 ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-09 17:00 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-09 17:14 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2005-02-09 17:30 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-09 18:08 ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-09 19:18 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-09 19:54 ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-09 20:06 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2005-02-09 20:03 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2005-02-09 20:10 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-09 21:53 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2005-02-09 19:58 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw [this message]
2005-02-09 20:51 ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-09 21:39 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2005-02-09 21:53 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-10 10:46 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2005-02-10 13:06 ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-10 13:43 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2005-02-10 15:35 ` Paulo Marques
2005-02-10 15:55 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2005-02-10 16:16 ` Vojtech Pavlik
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