From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261587AbVC0VWe (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:22:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261565AbVC0VWe (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:22:34 -0500 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.203]:22584 "EHLO rproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261587AbVC0VW1 convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:22:27 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=l1Ww9MCYem+7InQ2Lzlds1qRKiwMTOe2ArgHu9tGCdxlm3LiMfSVJ6eBAXF00lupgIsZlPRhDSYcS1KGZV/y5u055/oKAibk3gz2qxghbj0TpQNzPvD8QkFFQKZpjgSEVSxM1jImadc96nUDuK8IfwGiBNRWxRO26BQcSavvQqE= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:22:21 +0200 From: Diego Calleja To: Aaron Gyes Cc: bunk@stusta.de, gilbertd@treblig.org, mrmacman_g4@mac.com, arjan@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!!. Message-Id: <20050327232221.5748a973.diegocg@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1111951014.9831.4.camel@localhost> References: <1111886147.1495.3.camel@localhost> <490243b66dc7c3f592df7a7d0769dcb7@mac.com> <1111913399.6297.28.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <16d78e9ea33380a1f1ad90c454fb6e1d@mac.com> <20050327180417.GD3815@gallifrey> <20050327183522.GM4285@stusta.de> <1111951014.9831.4.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.9.6+svn (GTK+ 2.6.2; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org El Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:16:54 -0800, Aaron Gyes escribió: > company that made the device? Should NVIDIA be forced to give up their > secrets to all their competitors because some over zealous developers > say so? Should the end-users of the current drivers be forced to lose Is not just about zealotism, propietary drivers have to deal with locking, multiple architectures and so on, and often they're not very good at that. Note that this is not a problem only with linux, Windows is suffering the same every day. Here: http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/03/05/84469.aspx is a good example of how *scary* can be. This is what happens in a OS where a certification process is needed. I don't want to know what are they doing in linux, where such certification doesn't exist.....