From: Petr Baudis <pasky@ucw.cz>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>,
Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Randy.Dunlap" <rddunlap@osdl.org>,
Ross Vandegrift <ross@jose.lug.udel.edu>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [ANNOUNCE] git-pasky-0.1
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 00:27:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050410222737.GC5902@pasky.ji.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504101310430.1267@ppc970.osdl.org>
Dear diary, on Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 10:38:11PM CEST, I got a letter
where Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> told me that...
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Petr Baudis wrote:
> >
> > It turns out to be the forks for doing all the cuts and such what is
> > bogging it down so awfully (doing diff-tree takes 0.48s ;-). I do about
> > 15 forks per change, I guess, and for some reason cut takes a long of
> > time on its own.
>
> Heh.
>
> Can you pull my current repo, which has "diff-tree -R" that does what the
> name suggests, and which should be faster than the 0.48 sec you see..
Funnily enough, now after some more cache teasing it's ~0.185. Your one
still ~0.17, though. :/ (That might be because of the format changes,
though, since you do less printing now.) (BTW, all those measurements
are done on my AMD K6 walking on 1600MHz, 512M RAM, about 200M available
for caches.)
Just out of interest, did you have a look at my diff-tree -r
implementation and decided that you don't like it, or you weren't aware
of it?
I will probably take most of your diff-tree change, but I'd prefer to do
the sha1->tree mapping directly in diff_tree().
> It may not matter a lot, since actually generating the diff from the file
> contents is what is expensive, but remember my goal: I want the expense of
> a diff-tree to be relative to the size of the diff, so that implies that
> small diffs haev to be basically instantaenous. So I care.
Me too, of course.
> So I just tried the 2.6.7->2.6.8 diff, and for me the new recursive
> "diff-tree" can generate the _list_ of files changed in zero time:
>
> real 0m0.079s
> user 0m0.067s
> sys 0m0.024s
>
> but then _doing_ the diff is pretty expensive (in this case 3800+ files
> changed, so you have to unpack 7600+ objects - and even unpacking isn't
> the expensive part, the expense is literally in the diff operation
> itself).
>
> Me, the stuff I automate is the small steps. Doing a single checkin. So
> that's the case I care about going fast, when a "diff-tree" will likely
> have maybe five files or something. That's why I want the small
> incremental cases to go fast - it it takes me a minute to generate a diff
> for a _release_, that's not a big deal. I make one release every other
> month, but I work with lots of small patches all the time.
I see.
> Anyway, with a fast diff-tree, you should be able to generate the list of
> objects for a fast "merge". That's next.
>
> (And by "merge", I of course mean "suck". I'm talking about the old CVS
> three-way merge, and you have to specify the common parent explicitly and
> it won't handle any renames or any other crud. But it would get us to
> something that might actually be useful for simple things. Which is why
> "diff-tree" is important - it gives the information about what to tell
> merge).
I currently already do a merge when you track someone's source - it will
throw away your previous HEAD record though, so if you committed some
local changes after the previous pull, you will get orphaned commits and
the changes will turn to uncommitted ones. I have some ideas regarding
how to do it properly (and do any arbitrary merging, for that matter), I
hope to get to it as soon as I catch up with you. :-)
BTW, the three-way merge comes from RCS. That reminds me, is there any
tool which will take .rej files and throw them into the file to create
rcsmerge-like conflicts? Perhaps it's fault of my bad tools, but I
prefer to work with the inline rejects much more to .rej files (except
to actually notice the rejects).
--
Petr "Pasky" Baudis
Stuff: http://pasky.or.cz/
98% of the time I am right. Why worry about the other 3%.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-10 22:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 178+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-09 19:45 more git updates Linus Torvalds
2005-04-09 19:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-09 20:07 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-09 21:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-09 21:00 ` tony.luck
2005-04-10 16:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-12 17:34 ` Helge Hafting
2005-04-10 18:19 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 23:04 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-04-11 9:27 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-04-09 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-09 23:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-10 2:41 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-10 16:27 ` [ANNOUNCE] git-pasky-0.1 Petr Baudis
2005-04-10 16:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-10 19:49 ` Sean
2005-04-10 17:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-10 17:42 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-04-10 17:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-10 18:45 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-10 19:13 ` Willy Tarreau
2005-04-10 21:27 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-10 20:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-10 21:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-10 23:49 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-10 22:27 ` Petr Baudis [this message]
2005-04-10 23:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-10 23:26 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-10 23:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-10 23:56 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-11 0:20 ` GIT license (Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [ANNOUNCE] git-pasky-0.1) Linus Torvalds
2005-04-11 0:27 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-11 7:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-11 8:40 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-11 10:52 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-11 16:05 ` Florian Weimer
2005-04-10 23:23 ` [ANNOUNCE] git-pasky-0.1 Paul Jackson
2005-04-11 0:15 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-04-11 0:30 ` Re: " Petr Baudis
2005-04-11 1:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-10 20:41 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-11 1:58 ` [ANNOUNCE] git-pasky-0.2 Petr Baudis
2005-04-11 2:46 ` Daniel Barkalow
2005-04-11 10:17 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-11 8:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-11 10:16 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-11 13:57 ` [ANNOUNCE] git-pasky-0.3 Petr Baudis
2005-04-12 12:47 ` Martin Schlemmer
2005-04-12 13:02 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-12 13:13 ` Martin Schlemmer
2005-04-12 13:23 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-12 13:07 ` David Woodhouse
2005-04-13 8:47 ` Russell King
2005-04-13 8:59 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-13 9:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-13 9:09 ` David Woodhouse
2005-04-13 9:25 ` David Woodhouse
2005-04-13 9:42 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-13 10:24 ` David Woodhouse
2005-04-13 17:01 ` Daniel Barkalow
2005-04-13 18:07 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-13 18:22 ` git mailing list (Re: Re: Re: Re: [ANNOUNCE] git-pasky-0.3) Linus Torvalds
2005-04-13 18:38 ` Re: Re: Re: [ANNOUNCE] git-pasky-0.3 Daniel Barkalow
2005-04-13 12:43 ` Xavier Bestel
2005-04-13 16:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-13 18:15 ` Xavier Bestel
2005-04-13 23:05 ` bd
2005-04-13 14:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-13 14:47 ` David Woodhouse
2005-04-13 14:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-13 9:35 ` Russell King
2005-04-13 9:38 ` Russell King
2005-04-13 9:49 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-13 11:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-13 14:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-13 9:46 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-13 10:28 ` Russell King
2005-04-13 19:03 ` Russell King
2005-04-13 19:13 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-13 19:21 ` Russell King
2005-04-13 19:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-10 6:53 ` more git updates Christopher Li
2005-04-10 11:48 ` Ralph Corderoy
2005-04-10 19:23 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 18:42 ` Christopher Li
2005-04-10 22:30 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-11 13:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-04-20 20:29 ` Kai Henningsen
2005-04-24 0:42 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-24 1:29 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-04-24 4:13 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-24 4:38 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-04-24 4:53 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-25 11:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-04-25 16:40 ` David Wagner
2005-04-25 20:35 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-04-24 16:52 ` Horst von Brand
2005-04-24 8:00 ` Kai Henningsen
[not found] ` <6f6293f10504210220744af114@mail.gmail.com>
2005-04-24 8:01 ` Kai Henningsen
2005-04-11 11:35 ` [rfc] git: combo-blobs Ingo Molnar
2005-04-11 14:45 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-11 15:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-11 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-11 15:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-11 15:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-11 16:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-11 16:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-12 5:42 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-04-11 18:13 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-04-11 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-11 20:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-11 18:40 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-11 17:50 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-11 15:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-11 15:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-12 4:05 ` more git updates David Eger
2005-04-12 8:16 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-12 20:44 ` David Eger
2005-04-12 21:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-12 22:29 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2005-04-12 22:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-13 4:32 ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-04-12 22:36 ` David Eger
2005-04-12 23:48 ` Panagiotis Issaris
2005-04-12 23:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-12 23:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-13 0:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-13 1:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-13 10:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-13 20:44 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-13 23:42 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2005-04-14 0:13 ` Matt Mackall
2005-04-13 9:30 ` Russell King
2005-04-13 10:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-13 14:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-10 2:07 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 2:20 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 2:09 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 7:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-04-10 5:53 ` Christopher Li
2005-04-10 9:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-04-10 7:06 ` Christopher Li
2005-04-10 11:38 ` tony.luck
2005-04-10 9:48 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-10 9:40 ` Wichert Akkerman
2005-04-10 9:41 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-10 7:09 ` Christopher Li
2005-04-10 11:21 ` Proposal for shell-patch-format [was: Re: more git updates..] Rutger Nijlunsing
2005-04-10 15:44 ` more git updates Linus Torvalds
2005-04-10 17:00 ` Rutger Nijlunsing
2005-04-10 18:50 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 20:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-10 19:03 ` Christopher Li
2005-04-10 22:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-10 19:53 ` Christopher Li
2005-04-10 23:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-10 21:28 ` Christopher Li
2005-04-12 5:14 ` David Lang
2005-04-12 6:00 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-12 7:05 ` Barry K. Nathan
2005-04-11 6:57 ` bert hubert
2005-04-11 7:20 ` Christer Weinigel
2005-04-10 23:14 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 23:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-11 0:19 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-11 15:49 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-04-11 18:30 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-11 0:10 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-09 22:00 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-09 23:21 ` Ralph Corderoy
2005-04-10 0:39 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 1:14 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-04-10 1:33 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 10:22 ` Ralph Corderoy
2005-04-10 17:30 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-10 17:31 ` Rik van Riel
2005-04-10 17:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-04-11 16:46 ` ross
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