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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	hadi@cyberus.ca, netdev <netdev@oss.sgi.com>,
	Tarhon-Onu Victor <mituc@iasi.rdsnet.ro>,
	kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, devik@cdi.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: ACPI/HT or Packet Scheduler BUG?
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 13:06:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050416110639.GI4114@postel.suug.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050416014906.GA3291@gondor.apana.org.au>

* Herbert Xu <20050416014906.GA3291@gondor.apana.org.au> 2005-04-16 11:49
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:54:22PM +0000, Thomas Graf wrote:
> >
> > Another case were it's not locked is upon a deletion of a class where
> > the class deletes its inner qdisc, although there is only one case
> > how this can happen and that's under rtnl semaphore so there is no
> > way we can have a dumper at the same time.
> 
> Sorry, that's where tc went astray :)
> 
> The assumption that the rtnl is held during dumping is false.  It is
> only true for the initial dump call.  All subsequent dumps are not
> protected by the rtnl.

Ahh.. it's the unlocked subsequent dump calls that are _still_ running
when the destroy is invoked. That's where Patrick and I went wrong
when we tried to fix this issue. We set our t0 to qdisc_destroy and
didn't really consider any prior unlocked tasks still running.

> In fact the whole qdisc locking is a mess.  It's a cross-breed
> between locking with ad-hoc reference counting and RCU.  What's
> more, the RCU is completely useless too because for the case
> where we actually have a queue we still end up taking the spin
> lock on each transmit! I think someone's been benchmarking the
> loopback device again :)

It's not completely useless, it speeds up the deletion classful
qdiscs having some depth. However, it's not worth the locking
troubles I guess.

> Here is a quick'n'dirty fix to the problem at hand.

I think it's pretty clean but it doesn't solve the problem completely,
see below.

> This patch tries to ensure that all top-level calls to qdisc_destroy
> come under the tree lock.  As Thomas correctedly pointed out, most
> of the other qdisc_destroy calls occur after the top qdisc has been
> unlinked from the device qdisc_list.  However, someone should go
> through each one of the remaining ones (they're all in the individual
> sch_* implementations) and make sure that this assumption is really
> true.

qdisc_destroy can still be invoked without qdisc_tree_lock via the
deletion of a class when it calls qdisc_destroy to destroy its
leaf qdisc.

> If anyone has cycles to spare and a stomach strong enough for
> this stuff, here is your chance :)

I will look into this.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-04-16 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-08 10:13 Tarhon-Onu Victor
2005-04-12 12:46 ` Tarhon-Onu Victor
2005-04-14 15:46   ` Tarhon-Onu Victor
2005-04-15 21:37     ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-15 21:44       ` jamal
2005-04-15 21:54         ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-15 22:54           ` Thomas Graf
2005-04-16  1:49             ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-16  5:01               ` Steven Rostedt
2005-04-16 11:06               ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2005-04-16 11:12                 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-17 17:46                   ` Patrick McHardy
2005-04-17 21:37                     ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-16 11:23                 ` Herbert Xu
2005-04-16 11:34                   ` Thomas Graf
2005-04-16 16:04                     ` jamal
2005-04-16 18:21                       ` Thomas Graf

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