From: "William A.(Andy) Adamson" <andros@citi.umich.edu>
To: "Michael Kerrisk" <michael.kerrisk@gmx.net>
Cc: "William A.(Andy) Adamson" <andros@citi.umich.edu>,
matthew@wil.cx, sfr@canb.auug.org.au, mtk-lkml@gmx.net,
heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, andros@citi.umich.edu
Subject: Re: fcntl: F_SETLEASE/F_RDLCK question
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 12:21:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050503162124.500F01BB40@citi.umich.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5531.1115131813@www41.gmx.net>
> > > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 09:55:42AM -0400, William A.(Andy) Adamson
> > > wrote:
> > > > i believe the current implementation is correct. opening a file for
> > > > write
> > > > means that you can not have a read lease, caller included.
> > >
> > > Why not? Certainly, others will not be able to take out a read lease,
> > > so there's very little point to only having a read lease, but I don't
> > > see why we should deny it.
> > >
> >
> > by definition: a read lease means there are no writers. so, the question
> > is
> > not 'why not', the question is why? why hand out a read lease to an open
> > for write?
>
> Andy,
>
> Look more closely at my earlier table.
>
> Regardless of what the answer to your question is, the
> current semantics are bizarre. As things stand, a process
> can open a file O_RDWR, and and can place a WRITE lease
> but not a READ lease. That can't be right.
yes - i was being too strict. looking at NFSv4 delegations; a read lease does
not mean there are no writers, it means there are no other clients (fl_owners)
writing.
the other side of the coin would be break_lease. it should not break a read
lease on an open for write in the case where the fl_owner of the read lease is
also the owner of the open for write.
-->Andy
>
> FWIW it's worth, I think the read lease should be allowed.
> Oplocks are concerned with what other processes are doing,
> not what the caller is doing. Also, the current semantcis
> break backward compatibility.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-03 16:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-02 9:15 Heiko Carstens
2005-05-02 11:04 ` Stephen Rothwell
2005-05-02 12:10 ` Heiko Carstens
2005-05-03 10:00 ` Michael Kerrisk
2005-05-03 13:14 ` Stephen Rothwell
2005-05-03 13:55 ` William A.(Andy) Adamson
2005-05-03 13:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-05-03 14:15 ` William A.(Andy) Adamson
2005-05-03 14:50 ` Michael Kerrisk
2005-05-03 16:21 ` William A.(Andy) Adamson [this message]
2005-05-03 16:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-05-31 14:53 ` Michael Kerrisk
2005-05-31 15:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2005-05-31 15:41 ` Michael Kerrisk
2005-05-31 15:34 ` File leases and fork() Michael Kerrisk
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