From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
To: Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>
Cc: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, jdike@addtoit.com,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, george@mvista.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] (How to) Let idle CPUs sleep
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 22:42:51 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050512171251.GA21656@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200505120928.55476.jesse.barnes@intel.com>
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 09:28:55AM -0700, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> Seems like we could schedule timer interrupts based solely on add_timer
> type stuff; the scheduler could use it if necessary for load balancing
> (along with fork/exec based balancing perhaps) on large machines where
> load imbalances hurt throughput a lot. But on small systems if all
Even if we were to go for this tickless design, the fundamental question
remains: who wakes up the (sleeping) idle CPU upon a imbalance? Does some other
(busy) CPU wake it up (which makes the implementation complex) or the idle CPU
checks imbalance itself at periodic intervals (which restricts the amount of
time a idle CPU may sleep).
> your processes were blocked, you'd just go to sleep indefinitely and
> save a bit of power and avoid unnecessary overhead.
>
> I haven't looked at the lastest tickless patches, so I'm not sure if my
> claims of simplicity are overblown, but especially as multiprocessor
> systems become more and more common it just seems wasteful to wakeup
> all the CPUs every so often only to have them find that they have
> nothing to do.
I guess George's experience in implementing tickless systems is that
it is more of an overhead for a general purpose OS like Linux. George?
--
Thanks and Regards,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri,
Linux Technology Center,
IBM Software Labs,
Bangalore, INDIA - 560017
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-12 17:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-07 18:27 Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-05-08 3:50 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-08 4:14 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-08 12:19 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-05-09 6:27 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-12 8:38 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-05-11 18:03 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-05-12 8:46 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-05-12 16:01 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-12 16:16 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-05-12 16:28 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-05-12 17:12 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri [this message]
2005-05-12 17:59 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-05-12 18:16 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-05-13 6:27 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-05-12 18:08 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2005-05-12 18:21 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-05-13 6:23 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-05-13 7:16 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-13 8:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-05-13 8:27 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-13 9:19 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-05-13 9:33 ` Nick Piggin
2005-05-12 21:16 ` George Anzinger
2005-05-12 21:35 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-05-12 22:15 ` George Anzinger
2005-05-13 0:43 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-05-13 6:31 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-06-30 12:47 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-07-06 17:31 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-05-08 10:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-05-08 13:33 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-08 13:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-05-08 14:53 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-08 13:31 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-08 15:26 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
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