From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261581AbVFHTyr (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:54:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261584AbVFHTyr (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:54:47 -0400 Received: from dsl027-180-168.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.27.180.168]:55719 "EHLO sunset.davemloft.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261582AbVFHTyh (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:54:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20050608.125419.18305230.davem@davemloft.net> To: davej@redhat.com Cc: jketreno@linux.intel.com, vda@ilport.com.ua, pavel@ucw.cz, jgarzik@pobox.com, netdev@oss.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ipw2100-admin@linux.intel.com Subject: Re: ipw2100: firmware problem From: "David S. Miller" In-Reply-To: <20050608194902.GK876@redhat.com> References: <42A7268D.9020402@linux.intel.com> <20050608.124332.85408883.davem@davemloft.net> <20050608194902.GK876@redhat.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.4 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Dave Jones Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:49:02 -0400 > FWIW, I agree, though the licensing of the Intel firmware > prevents that iirc. The biggest problem I face with this driver > in Fedora kernels is users mismatching firmware rev with the > driver version. Another problem that disappears if the two > are shipped together. Yep, this license definitely hurts users, in many many ways. If this kind of external firmware requirement existed for a popular SCSI controller, more people would be up in arms about this and understand the issue more clearly.