From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262293AbVFIGMR (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 02:12:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262292AbVFIGLK (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 02:11:10 -0400 Received: from dsl027-180-168.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.27.180.168]:24466 "EHLO sunset.davemloft.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262289AbVFIGK6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 02:10:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 23:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20050608.231045.48808548.davem@davemloft.net> To: vda@ilport.com.ua Cc: jketreno@linux.intel.com, pavel@ucw.cz, jgarzik@pobox.com, netdev@oss.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ipw2100-admin@linux.intel.com Subject: Re: ipw2100: firmware problem From: "David S. Miller" In-Reply-To: <200506090903.49295.vda@ilport.com.ua> References: <42A7268D.9020402@linux.intel.com> <20050608.124332.85408883.davem@davemloft.net> <200506090903.49295.vda@ilport.com.ua> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.4 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Denis Vlasenko Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:03:49 +0300 > You practically cannot avoid having initrd because you are very likely > to need to do some wifi config (at least ESSID and mode). I need neither at home. It comes up by default just fine with ifconfig. Your points are valid, but they do not detract from the fact that pieced up drivers, half in the kernel half somewhere else, is total madness. It is a lose for the user.