From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262108AbVFIGbt (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 02:31:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262298AbVFIGbs (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 02:31:48 -0400 Received: from 167.imtp.Ilyichevsk.Odessa.UA ([195.66.192.167]:18082 "HELO port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S262303AbVFIGap (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Jun 2005 02:30:45 -0400 From: Denis Vlasenko To: "David S. Miller" Subject: Re: ipw2100: firmware problem Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:30:22 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 Cc: jketreno@linux.intel.com, pavel@ucw.cz, jgarzik@pobox.com, netdev@oss.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ipw2100-admin@linux.intel.com References: <200506090903.49295.vda@ilport.com.ua> <200506090917.23853.vda@ilport.com.ua> <20050608.232020.115912376.davem@davemloft.net> In-Reply-To: <20050608.232020.115912376.davem@davemloft.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506090930.22274.vda@ilport.com.ua> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thursday 09 June 2005 09:20, David S. Miller wrote: > From: Denis Vlasenko > Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:17:23 +0300 > > > Sadly, realities are such that we have to live somehow > > with closed-source firmware. > > You have a choice, buy products from friendly vendors. I am trying! So far, I have Prism2.5, Prism54 and acx111 cards, and all of them require closed binary fw. > I use prism54 cards in my laptops for this reason. ?! As far as I remember, it needs a fw and fw is not open... did that change recently? > If you like a vendor's products who aren't friendly, try > to voice intelligently your opinion to them as to why users > will benefit from them fixing the firmware situation. -- vda