From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261503AbVFMWQY (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:16:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261516AbVFMWNk (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:13:40 -0400 Received: from smtp.lnxw.com ([207.21.185.24]:25619 "EHLO smtp.lnxw.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261511AbVFMWMS (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:12:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:18:10 -0700 To: Karim Yaghmour Cc: dwalker@mvista.com, paulmck@us.ibm.com, Andrea Arcangeli , Bill Huey , Lee Revell , Tim Bird , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu, pmarques@grupopie.com, bruce@andrew.cmu.edu, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, ak@muc.de, sdietrich@mvista.com, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org Subject: Re: Attempted summary of "RT patch acceptance" thread Message-ID: <20050613221810.GA820@nietzsche.lynx.com> References: <42AB7857.1090907@opersys.com> <20050612214519.GB1340@us.ibm.com> <42ACE2D3.9080106@opersys.com> <20050613144022.GA1305@us.ibm.com> <42ADE334.4030002@opersys.com> <1118693033.2725.21.camel@dhcp153.mvista.com> <42ADEC0E.4020907@opersys.com> <1118694495.2725.32.camel@dhcp153.mvista.com> <42AE01EA.10905@opersys.com> <42AE04AE.8070107@opersys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42AE04AE.8070107@opersys.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Bill Huey (hui) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:11:58PM -0400, Karim Yaghmour wrote: > BTW, though I repeat that this wasn't what I was suggesting, it can > be easily argued that community separation already exists. The fact > of the matter is that few mainstream developers have been "asking" > for RT. And at this point, some seem genuinely worried about its > possible integration. Ignore it. They are misinformed and ignorant about these issues. > So one can keep ignoring the reality of the existing clash here, > but it may just be that backing off a little and thinking about it > in less absolute integration terms would help. Be a leader, not a follower. :) You're never going to get anything cool done if you are "beat down" by easily offended folks that don't understand what you're doing. bill