From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261624AbVFPBn3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:43:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261674AbVFPBn3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:43:29 -0400 Received: from downeast.net ([12.149.251.230]:45283 "EHLO downeast.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261624AbVFPBnW (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:43:22 -0400 From: Patrick McFarland To: Lennart Sorensen Subject: Re: A Great Idea (tm) about reimplementing NLS. Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:42:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Cc: Lukasz Stelmach , mru@inprovide.com, "Alexander E. Patrakov" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <42B04090.7050703@poczta.fm> <20050615212825.GS23621@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <20050615212825.GS23621@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart10087837.Qcm0npPvv8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506152142.02178.pmcfarland@downeast.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --nextPart10087837.Qcm0npPvv8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 15 June 2005 05:28 pm, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > What do you do if the underlying filesystem can not store some unicode > characters that are allowed on others? Um, thats impossible, unless you're implying something like the file system= =20 not being 8-bit safe. The only thing UTF-8 does is store data in bytes, it= =20 doesn't need any real support from the file system. > > It depend's on what it is used for. It is very good fs for removable > > media. None of linux native filesystems is good for this because of > > different uids on different machines. Since VFAT uses unicode it is > > possible to see the filenames properly on systems using different > > codepages for the same language (1:1 is possible). > VFAT uses unicode? I thought it used the same codepage silyness as FAT > did, since after all ti was just supposed to be a long filename > extension to FAT. Do they use unicode in the long filenames only? I mentioned earlier that VFAT uses 8-bit encodings, none of them (supported= by=20 Windows, at least) are Unicode. > I think UDF is a better filesystem for many types of media since it is > able to me more gently to the sectors storing the meta data than VFAT > ever will be. I agree. UDF is the true successor to the portable media throne. =2D-=20 Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || pmcfarland@downeast.net "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, w= e'd=20 all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening= to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 --nextPart10087837.Qcm0npPvv8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBCsNjq8Gvouk7G1cURAgNBAKCIzsssZcIn//fCVm83YI1OYOKIFQCgwjhJ 53NQuS5/39Izb1vYOjBXMG0= =Tj00 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart10087837.Qcm0npPvv8--