From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261604AbVFPPEX (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:04:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261654AbVFPPEX (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:04:23 -0400 Received: from perpugilliam.csclub.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.31]:16845 "EHLO perpugilliam.csclub.uwaterloo.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261604AbVFPPEU (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:04:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:04:19 -0400 To: "Richard B. Johnson" Cc: Lukasz Stelmach , mru@inprovide.com, Patrick McFarland , "Alexander E. Patrakov" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: A Great Idea (tm) about reimplementing NLS. Message-ID: <20050616150419.GY23488@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <42AFE624.4020403@poczta.fm> <200506150454.11532.pmcfarland@downeast.net> <42AFF184.2030209@poczta.fm> <42B04090.7050703@poczta.fm> <20050615212825.GS23621@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <42B0BAF5.106@poczta.fm> <20050616133904.GU23488@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 10:44:52AM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > You know this problem was "solved" over 20 years ago when it was > discovered that file-names could never be long enough. The solution > was a container-file which contained as much stuff as necessary to > identity the contents of the file that it was associated with. Using > this technique, the "real" file didn't need any ASCII identifiers. The > real file didn't show up in some directory program, just the contents > of the container-file. This same technique could be used for any > arbitrary file-identification including characters that haven't been > invented yet. Why am I suddenly reminded of apple's idiotic filesystem forks for resources and data? Such a pain when trying to transfer files to other types of filesystems. Modifying the files themselves also doesn't seem like the right solution. As for filenames never being long enough, I don't think that is true. Filenames CAN be too long, but I don't see very many people think 250 characters makes for a useful filename. Most people seem happy with 50 or so being a good limit even though many systems support much longer. 8 wasn't enough, and 25 or 30 was sometimes a bit short, but usually enough. Not having enough filename length doesn't seem to be a problem in need of a solution on most systems anymore. Len Sorensen