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From: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
To: Alistair John Strachan <s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [2.6.12] x86-64 IO-APIC + timer doesn't work II + PATCH
Date: 19 Jun 2005 01:52:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 01:52:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050618235229.GA35248@muc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200506181452.52921.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk>

On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 02:52:52PM +0100, Alistair John Strachan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I upgraded my nForce3 x86-64 desktop from 2.6.12-rc5 to 2.6.12 today and 
> something strange started happening. Waay back in 2.6.x I had problems with 
> the "noapic" default for nForce boards on x86-64, and so used the "apic" 
> kernel boot parameter to force the apic on; this worked successfully for a 
> long time with no timer problems.
> 
> However, as of 2.6.12 (maybe -rc6, too?) my desktop occasionally fails to boot 
> with the message:
> 
> "IO-APIC + timer doesn't work! Try using the 'noapic' kernel parameter."
> (arch/x86_64/kernel/io_apic.c)
> 
> However, this message is intermittent; it is sometimes possible to boot 
> without getting it, and everything works fine. So I took its advice and ran 
> with noapic, and everything seems fine now.
> 
> However, I just thought I'd let whoever maintains this bit of code know that 
> the check isn't a "sure thing": it's not being flagged reliably. Whether this 
> is my BIOS or the kernel, I don't know.

It's a bit of a shot into the dark, but could you test if the following
patch helps?  The A64 is quite aggressive in reordering instructions and it
 might be breaking __delay() and cause it to return early.

If not I would check what a failing case and a working case output for

Calibrating delay loop... 3940.35 BogoMIPS (lpj=1970176)

Does the failing kernel output something different here? 

-Andi


diff -u linux-2.6.12/arch/x86_64/lib/delay.c-o linux-2.6.12-rc6-git4-work/arch/x86_64/lib/delay.c
--- linux-2.6.12/arch/x86_64/lib/delay.c-o	2005-06-11 13:04:28.000000000 +0200
+++ linux-2.6.12/arch/x86_64/lib/delay.c	2005-06-19 01:49:09.000000000 +0200
@@ -27,9 +27,9 @@
 	do
 	{
 		rep_nop(); 
+		sync_core();
 		rdtscl(now);
-	}
-	while((now-bclock) < loops);
+	} while((now-bclock) < loops);
 }
 
 inline void __const_udelay(unsigned long xloops)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-06-18 23:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-18 13:52 [2.6.12] x86-64 IO-APIC + timer doesn't work Alistair John Strachan
2005-06-18 19:09 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-19  0:21   ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-06-19  0:57     ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-06-19  1:33       ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-19  1:03   ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-06-18 23:52 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2005-06-19  0:23   ` [2.6.12] x86-64 IO-APIC + timer doesn't work II + PATCH Alistair John Strachan

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