From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Alexander Lyamin aka FLX <flx@namesys.com>,
Alexander Zarochentcev <zam@namesys.com>,
vs <vs@thebsh.namesys.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:57:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050622015724.GN14251@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42B8C0FF.2010800@namesys.com>
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 06:38:07PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
> V4 has a mailing list, and a large number of testers who read the code
> and comment on it. V4 has been reviewed and tested much more than V3
> was before merging. Given that we sent it in quite some time ago, your
> suggestion that an additional review by unspecified additional others be
> a requirement for merging seems untimely. Do you see my point of view
> on this?
The point of the merge review is that people who are familiar with the existing
Linux code double check that the way your code interfacts
with the rest of the kernel is sane, does not have obvious bugs and follows the
existing good practice.
Once the code is in mainline it will get maintained and fixed when needed,
but to make this possible without undue work on the mainline hackers it is needed
to do a full review first.
AFAIK reiserfs has not gotten such a full review yet.
Also good reviewers are rare so it is not a good idea to be picky here.
> Unspecified others doing a review, well, who knows, I will surely take
> the time to consider what is said by them though.....
>
> I would prefer to not get reviews from authors of other filesystems who
> prefer their own code, skim through our code without taking the time to
> grok our philosophy and approach in depth, and then complain that our
> code is different from what they chose to write, and think that our
> changing to be like them should be mandated. I will not name names here....
Someone qualified to review a new file system for inclusion will have need necessary
some experience in Linux file systems, and that can be hardly gotten without ever
having touched one. So you will have to live with other file system authors
commenting on your code.
The main philosophy that is of concern here is also the philosophy of the
core VFS and other kernel interfaces.
> Some of the suggestions on our mailing list are great, some reflect a
> lack of 5 years working with our code, perhaps I should feed our mailing
> list into the linux kernel mailing list so that people on the kernel
> mailing list are more aware that we exist and are active?
Nobody doubts that you are active. Just there are doubts that your
code follows the Linux coding standards enough to not be a undue
mainteance burden in mainline. A review with the following changes
could probably fix that.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-22 1:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20050620235458.5b437274.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2005-06-21 11:14 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-21 18:44 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-21 19:56 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-21 20:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-22 1:38 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22 1:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22 1:57 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2005-06-22 2:55 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22 3:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22 8:09 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22 8:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-23 6:22 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-06-23 7:42 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 8:08 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-23 13:10 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 16:15 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-06-23 16:23 ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-23 19:56 ` Ross Biro
2005-06-23 17:17 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 21:18 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-23 18:37 ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-06-23 18:43 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-23 19:29 ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-06-23 19:45 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 19:32 ` Jens Axboe
2005-06-25 16:46 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-06-25 19:23 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-25 21:08 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-26 1:03 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-25 23:54 ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-26 10:03 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-27 7:24 ` Jens Axboe
2005-06-27 7:28 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 7:49 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-27 8:19 ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-27 8:20 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 12:27 ` [PATCH] verbose BUG_ON reporting Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-27 12:38 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 12:45 ` Pekka J Enberg
2005-06-27 12:40 ` [PATCH] " Jörn Engel
2005-06-23 19:24 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Hans Reiser
2005-06-24 1:13 ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-26 0:45 ` Christian Trefzer
2005-06-26 1:13 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-26 2:23 ` Christian Trefzer
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2005-06-22 1:26 ` reiser4 plugins Andi Kleen
2005-06-22 2:47 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22 3:16 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-22 15:29 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-23 13:20 -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Ian Pratt
2005-06-23 13:37 ` Mark Williamson
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2005-06-22 14:40 ` Bodo Eggert
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-21 6:54 Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 12:01 ` Andrey Panin
2005-06-21 12:35 ` Alan Cox
2005-06-21 13:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-22 10:50 ` Erik Slagter
2005-06-21 12:43 ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-21 12:58 ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-21 14:08 ` Martin Hicks
2005-06-21 19:54 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:00 ` Martin Hicks
2005-06-21 15:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-21 15:39 ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 19:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 19:38 ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 19:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:02 ` Zan Lynx
2005-06-21 20:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:07 ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 20:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:15 ` Zan Lynx
2005-06-22 5:53 ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-06-21 22:54 ` Alan Cox
2005-06-21 20:52 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-21 22:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-21 23:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 23:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22 6:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 15:43 ` Matt Porter
2005-06-21 19:41 ` randy_dunlap
2005-06-21 20:05 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-21 20:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-21 20:22 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:56 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-06-21 21:04 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 21:23 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-06-21 21:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-22 6:33 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-21 21:28 ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-22 23:32 ` Chris Wright
2005-06-23 13:04 ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-22 16:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-06-22 20:52 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-23 2:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-06-24 4:06 ` Paul Jackson
2005-06-24 4:54 ` randy_dunlap
2005-06-21 15:50 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-21 18:56 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-06-22 18:00 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-06-21 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:37 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-22 5:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 9:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 14:25 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-06-27 19:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 19:44 ` Joel Becker
2005-06-27 20:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 19:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 20:37 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-30 18:30 ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-06-27 20:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
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