From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>
Cc: Bill Huey <bhuey@lnxw.com>, Kristian Benoit <kbenoit@opersys.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com, andrea@suse.de,
tglx@linutronix.de, pmarques@grupopie.com, bruce@andrew.cmu.edu,
nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, ak@muc.de, sdietrich@mvista.com,
dwalker@mvista.com, hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org,
rpm@xenomai.org
Subject: Re: PREEMPT_RT vs I-PIPE: the numbers, part 2
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:06:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050623000607.GB11486@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42B9F673.4040100@opersys.com>
* Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com> wrote:
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > please retest using recent (i.e. today's) -RT kernels. There were a
> > whole bunch of fixes that could affect these numbers.
>
> At this point, we're bound to rerun some of the tests. But there's
> only so many times that one can claim that such and such test isn't
> good enough because it doesn't have all the latest bells and whistles.
> Surely there's more to this overhead than just rudimentary bugfixes.
well, it was your choice to benchmark ADEOS against PREEMPT_RT, right?
You posted numbers that showed your project in a favorable light while
the PREEMPT_RT numbers were more than 100% off. Your second batch of
numbers showed a tie, but we still dont know the true correct PREEMPT_RT
irq latency values on your hardware, because your testing still had
bugs. So a minimum requirement would be to post accurate numbers - you
have started this after all.
this thread showcases one of the many reasons why 'vendor sponsored
benchmarking' is such a bad idea. I wont post benchmark numbers
comparing PREEMPT_RT to 'other' realtime projects. I'm obviously biased,
everyone else sees me as biased, so what's the point? Should i pretend
i'm not biased towards the stuff i wrote? That would be hypocritical
beyond recognition. I dont benchmark PREEMPT_RT against other projects
because i know it perfectly well that it is the best thing since sliced
bread ;)
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-23 0:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-20 17:13 Kristian Benoit
2005-06-20 18:31 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-22 16:00 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 19:29 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-22 20:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 20:39 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 22:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 23:03 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-22 23:52 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 23:38 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 23:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-06-23 0:05 ` Daniel Walker
2005-06-23 0:48 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23 0:06 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2005-06-23 0:47 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23 0:55 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-23 1:09 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23 1:15 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-23 1:47 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23 0:59 ` David Lang
2005-06-23 1:22 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23 1:42 ` David Lang
2005-06-23 2:09 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23 2:15 ` David Lang
2005-06-23 1:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-23 2:02 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23 3:57 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-23 4:13 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 20:10 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 20:15 ` Bill Huey
2005-06-21 1:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-21 2:29 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 1:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-22 15:31 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 15:27 ` Kristian Benoit
2005-06-22 16:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-22 17:20 ` Kristian Benoit
2005-06-22 17:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 17:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 18:12 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 18:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 19:04 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 18:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-22 19:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 20:17 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 20:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 21:03 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 21:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 21:32 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 22:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-06-22 23:02 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 21:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-22 19:08 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-23 14:48 ` Paulo Marques
2005-06-22 17:58 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 18:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-22 19:16 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-22 21:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-06-22 17:17 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-22 17:32 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-06-29 7:43 ` PREEMPT_RT & threading IRQ 0 Ingo Molnar
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