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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
To: Robert Love <rml@novell.com>
Cc: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>,
	Andy Isaacson <adi@hexapodia.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: wrong madvise(MADV_DONTNEED) semantic
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:17:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050628201704.GC4453@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1119989111.6745.21.camel@betsy>

On Tue, 28 June 2005 16:05:11 -0400, Robert Love wrote:
> 
> I like the idea (I think someone suggested this early on) of renaming
> the current MADV_DONTNEED to MADV_FREE and then adding a correct
> MADV_DONTNEED.

Imo, that's still a crime against common sense.  Madvice should give
the kernel some advice about which data to keep or not to keep in
memory, hence the name.  It should *not* tell the kernel to corrupt
data, which currently appears to be the case.

If the application knows 100% that it is the _only_ possible user of
this data and will never again use it, dropping dirty pages might be a
sane option.  Effectively that translates to anonymous memory only.
In all other cases, dirty pages should be written back.

> And, as I said, the man page needs clarification.

Definitely.

Jörn

-- 
Eighty percent of success is showing up.
-- Woody Allen

  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-28 20:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-28 13:43 Samuel Thibault
2005-06-28 14:38 ` [Patch] Hotfix for " Jörn Engel
2005-06-28 18:16 ` Andy Isaacson
2005-06-28 18:28   ` Robert Love
2005-06-28 18:53     ` Andy Isaacson
2005-06-28 19:23       ` Robert Love
2005-06-28 19:41         ` Samuel Thibault
2005-06-28 20:03           ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-28 20:05             ` Robert Love
2005-06-28 20:17               ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2005-06-28 20:20                 ` Samuel Thibault
2005-06-28 20:30                   ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-28 20:37                   ` Andy Isaacson
2005-07-05 23:39                 ` Darren Hart
2005-06-29 16:53         ` wrong madvise(MADV DONTNEED) semantic Michael Kerrisk
2005-06-29 17:22           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-06-29 16:34     ` Michael Kerrisk
2005-06-28 18:54   ` wrong madvise(MADV_DONTNEED) semantic Samuel Thibault

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