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From: Michel Bouissou <michel@bouissou.net>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Protasevich, Natalie" <Natalie.Protasevich@UNISYS.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [SOLVED ??] Kernel 2.6.12 + IO-APIC + uhci_hcd = Trouble
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 23:34:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200507112334.30680@totor.bouissou.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0507111713320.14116-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

Le Lundi 11 Juillet 2005 23:21, Alan Stern a écrit :
> Don't jump to hasty conclusions.  Problems like this are often caused by
> unrelated things that you wouldn't suspect at first.

I know... Been working with computers for... Uh... 25 years ?

> Getting something to work once doesn't mean the problem has been fixed.

That's so sadly right ;-)

> And you can be fooled by coincidences.  (I would be surprised if that event
> above was really caused by plugging in the scanner, unless your UHCI
> hardware is broken.) 

I don't believe the hardware is broken, as it's been running for more than 2 
years 100% stable with a 24/7/365 uptime. And with me plugging and unplugging 
USB devices...

Never had a single problem of the kind with any 2.4.x kernel. Get those 
problems only with 2.6.x kernels, and, in 2.6.12, only when UP IO-APIC is 
enabled (which ran perfectly good in 2.4).

So the problem is circled to 2.6 kernel, uhci_hcd and UP IO-APIC.

> One thing you might try, time-consuming though it will be, is to remove or
> disable as much hardware as possible from your system.  If you can
> reliably determine that the problem occurs only when one particular piece
> of hardware is enabled, then you'll know how to proceed.

I can hardly remove my VIA chipset from the mobo, and the USB thing is in the 
VIA thing ;-))

And I'm afraid I won't have the time to play that much with hardware, besides 
the fact that this is supposed to be a server which usually has uptimes over 
90 days rather than reboot-for-testing-the-damn-kernel-once-again ;-))

But I'm pretty sure this is no hardware problem, unless 2.6 considers "bad 
hardware" what 2.4 used to consider "nice hardware"...

Cheers.

-- 
Michel Bouissou <michel@bouissou.net> OpenPGP ID 0xDDE8AC6E

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-11 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-10 18:50 Protasevich, Natalie
2005-07-11  9:06 ` Michel Bouissou
2005-07-11 18:36   ` Alan Stern
2005-07-11 19:33     ` [SOLVED ??] " Michel Bouissou
2005-07-11 19:43       ` Alan Stern
2005-07-11 20:02         ` Michel Bouissou
2005-07-11 20:16           ` Alan Stern
2005-07-11 20:46             ` Michel Bouissou
2005-07-11 20:58               ` Michel Bouissou
2005-07-11 21:21                 ` [NOT solved] " Michel Bouissou
2005-07-11 21:21               ` [SOLVED ??] " Alan Stern
2005-07-11 21:34                 ` Michel Bouissou [this message]
2005-07-12  1:54                   ` Alan Stern
2005-07-12  7:54                     ` Michel Bouissou
2005-07-12 14:12                       ` Alan Stern
2005-07-12 17:03                         ` Michel Bouissou
2005-07-12 18:15                           ` Alan Stern
2005-07-12 18:16                           ` Michel Bouissou
2005-07-12 18:57                             ` Alan Stern
2005-07-12 20:40                               ` Michel Bouissou
2005-07-12 21:37                                 ` Alan Stern
2005-07-12 22:01                                   ` Michel Bouissou
2005-07-11 19:52 [SOLVED ??] " Protasevich, Natalie
2005-07-11 20:13 ` Michel Bouissou
2005-07-12  7:24 ` Alexander Fieroch

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