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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Mitchell Blank Jr <mitch@sfgoth.com>,
	dtor_core@ameritech.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] driver core: Add the ability to unbind drivers to devices from userspace
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 23:06:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050807210643.GD3100@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e4733910508071317a8f0eb6@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

> > > It is not a work around. These are text attributes meant for human
> > > use.  Humans have a hard time cleaning up things they can't see. And
> > > the failure mode for this is awful, your attribute won't set but
> > > everything on the screen looks fine.
> > 
> > Kernel is not a place to be user friendly. Or do you propose stripping whitespace
> > for open(), too? File called "foo.txt    " certainly *is* going to be confusing, but it should be allowed at kernel level.
> 
> open is not made for human use, it is used by programs and only
> indirectly by humans. sysfs variables are used by directly humans.

Both are kernel interfaces; I can use open() by hand just fine...

> > Now... echo foo > /sys/var does not properly report errors. Thats bad, but it needs to
> > be fixed in bash.
> 
> It is going to take a lot more code to return an error that a
> parameter didn't match because of extra white space that it would take
> to simply remove the whitespace.

I believe we do correctly report errors in write() calls already. Bash
not reporting them to the user is different problem.
								Pavel
-- 
if you have sharp zaurus hardware you don't need... you know my address

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-07 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-25  4:09 Jon Smirl
2005-07-25  4:58 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-07-25 14:28   ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-25 14:48     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-07-25 16:30       ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-26  0:00         ` Greg KH
2005-07-26  0:28           ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-26  0:30             ` Greg KH
2005-07-26  0:56               ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-26  1:54                 ` Greg KH
2005-07-26  3:15                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-26  3:29                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-07-28  2:05                     ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28  3:46                       ` Greg KH
2005-07-28  3:59                         ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28  4:05                           ` Greg KH
2005-07-28  4:49                             ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28  5:49                               ` Greg KH
2005-07-28  7:04                                 ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2005-07-28 12:54                                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28 13:09                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2005-07-28 13:16                                     ` Paulo Marques
2005-07-28 18:09                                     ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2005-07-28 19:03                                     ` Greg KH
2005-07-28 19:57                                       ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28 20:22                                         ` Mitchell Blank Jr
2005-07-28 20:27                                           ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-29 18:50                                             ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-06  0:42                                               ` Greg KH
2005-08-06  3:48                                                 ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-21 22:21                                             ` Jon Smirl
2005-07-28 21:10                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2005-07-28 21:12                                           ` Jon Smirl
2002-01-01  7:53                                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-05 13:32                                               ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-05 18:01                                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-05 18:14                                                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-05 18:20                                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-05 18:47                                                       ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-05 20:07                                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-05 20:33                                                           ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-06  9:39                                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2005-08-07 18:50                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-07 18:47                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-07 20:17                                                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-08-07 21:06                                                     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-08-05 22:31                                               ` David Weinehall
2005-07-28 21:17                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2005-07-28 12:52                                 ` Jon Smirl
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-30  6:04 [PATCH] driver core: add bus_find_device & driver_find_device functions Greg KH
2005-06-30  6:04 ` [PATCH] driver core: Add the ability to unbind drivers to devices from userspace Greg KH
2005-06-30  6:25   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-06-30  6:29     ` Greg KH
2005-06-24  5:12 [RFC] bind and unbind drivers from userspace through sysfs Greg KH
2005-06-24  5:14 ` [PATCH] driver core: Add the ability to unbind drivers to devices from userspace Greg KH
2005-06-24 15:57   ` Patrick Mochel
2005-06-25  3:27     ` Greg KH
2005-06-25  4:16       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-06-25  9:39         ` Michael Tokarev

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