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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
To: Folkert van Heusden <folkert@vanheusden.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: zero-copy read() interface
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:13:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050818131327.GA21830@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050818104131.GH12313@vanheusden.com>

On Thu, 18 August 2005 12:41:32 +0200, Folkert van Heusden wrote:
>
> > Just use mmap().  Unlike your proposal, it cooperates with the page
> > cache.
> 
> Doesn't that one also use copying? I've also heard that using mmap is
> expensive due to pagefaulting. I've found, for example, that copying a
> 1.3GB file using read/write instead of mmap & memcpy is seconds faster.

Since you don't consider device DMA to be a copy, no, it doesn't.  The
data is transferred into page cache, then the pages are mapped into
your processes memory without an additional copy.

The pagefaulting isn't free either, I agree.  And for streaming
accesses like your copy of a large file, taking one fault per 4k
copied is not an ideal case.

Most likely you'd want Linus' pipe stuff for copying a large file
without ever looking at the data.  That work is still unfinished,
though, and I'm currently lacking time to work on it.

Jörn

-- 
He that composes himself is wiser than he that composes a book.
-- B. Franklin

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-18 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-18 10:01 Folkert van Heusden
2005-08-18 10:05 ` Jörn Engel
2005-08-18 10:41   ` Folkert van Heusden
2005-08-18 13:13     ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2005-08-18 23:34     ` dean gaudet
2005-08-19  8:33       ` Jörn Engel
2005-08-21  9:01     ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-18 10:06 ` Christoph Hellwig

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