From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jasonuhl@sgi.com
Subject: Re: CONFIG_PRINTK_TIME woes
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 02:13:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050821021322.3986dd4a.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B8E391BBE9FE384DAA4C5C003888BE6F042C7DA7@scsmsx401.amr.corp.intel.com>
"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com> wrote:
>
> It has been pointed out to me that ia64 doesn't boot
> with CONFIG_PRINTK_TIME=y. The issue is the call to
> sched_clock() ... which on ia64 accesses some per-cpu
> data to adjust for possible variations in processor
> speed between different cpus. Since the per-cpu page
> is not set up for the first few printk() calls, we die.
>
> Is this an issue on any other architecture? Most versions
> of sched_clock() seem to just scale jiffies into nanoseconds,
> so I guess they don't. s390, sparc64, x86 and x86_64 all
> have more sophisticated versions but they don't appear to me
> to have limitations on how early they might be called.
>
> Possible solutions:
>
> 1) Fix ia64 version of sched_clock() to check whether
> the per-cpu page hase been initialized before using it.
>
> I don't like this solution as it will make sched_clock()
> slower for its primary uses in kernel/sched.c ... none of
> which can be called before the per-cpu area is initialized.
>
>
> 2) Add some test to the printk() path along the lines of:
>
> t = (can_call_sched_clock) ? sched_clock() : 0;
>
> This is somewhat ugly ... perhaps too unpleasant for words in
> that can_call_sched_clock is a per-cpu concept!
>
> 3) Make the printk() code get the time in some other way.
>
> Using sched_clock() here seems wrong. The ia64 version
> has a big fat comment about not comparing the results of
> two calls from different cpus ... but since printk() calls
> can come from any cpu ... it seems likely that a user who
> turns on PRINTK_TIME might subtract timestamps from two
> lines to see how long it was between the messages. This
> could have significant error on a system that has been up
> for a long time.
>
> But I don't have a better suggestion from existing code.
> I assume that sched_clock() was picked as it is both fast and
> lockless.
Yes, using sched_clock() there is a bit abusive.
It's not terribly performance-sensitive in printk().
How about we give each arch a printk_clock()?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-21 9:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-18 18:47 Luck, Tony
2005-08-21 9:13 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2005-08-21 9:16 ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-21 9:27 ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-21 9:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-21 11:25 ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-21 18:01 ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-24 0:04 ` Tim Bird
2005-08-22 17:42 ` tony.luck
2005-08-22 17:50 ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-22 20:52 ` tony.luck
2005-08-22 20:20 ` David S. Miller
2005-08-22 20:33 ` Jason Uhlenkott
2005-08-22 20:42 ` David S. Miller
2005-08-22 21:10 ` tony.luck
2005-08-22 21:15 ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-22 22:33 ` tony.luck
2005-08-22 22:38 ` Andrew Morton
2005-08-22 23:27 ` tony.luck
2005-08-23 1:52 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-08-23 15:01 ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-24 0:36 ` Tim Bird
2005-08-23 7:18 ` Tony Lindgren
2005-08-23 14:07 Luck, Tony
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