From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751123AbVHXQYh (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:24:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751122AbVHXQYh (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:24:37 -0400 Received: from web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.119]:9070 "HELO web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751123AbVHXQYh (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:24:37 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EWA6fWkpx06ECrI5S9IX6QQQD1p7klWtHQM27CT2Mr1NzIft4lZfIQGu7Ln1+gOJvQqWjKsfUbWpBAvtGQBglx9RN7YNUkURX2BYZri4oeHBy9etHqNEzT1q91eroLQ+WcTUwQ8y02c/Jyq3Z5afZrDdazkpmcJ9gFUFeOKYD9Y= ; Message-ID: <20050824162425.62228.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 09:24:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Danial Thom Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 2.6.12 Performance problems To: Patrick McHardy Cc: Helge Hafting , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <430B5B14.5070105@trash.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --- Patrick McHardy wrote: > Danial Thom wrote: > > I think part of the problem is the continued > > misuse of the word "latency". Latency, in > > language terms, means "unexplained delay". > Its > > wrong here because for one, its explainable. > But > > it also depends on your perspective. The > > "latency" is increased for kernel tasks, > while it > > may be reduced for something that is getting > the > > benefit of preempting the kernel. So you > really > > can't say "the price of reduced latency is > lower > > throughput", because thats simply backwards. > > You've increased the kernel tasks latency by > > allowing it to be pre-empted. Reduced latency > > implies higher efficiency. All you've done > here > > is shift the latency from one task to > another, so > > there is no reduction overall, in fact there > is > > probably a marginal increase due to the > overhead > > of pre-emption vs doing nothing. > > If instead of complaining you would provide the > information > I've asked for two days ago someone might > actually be able > to help you. Because gaining an understanding of how the settings work is better than having 30 guys telling me to tune something that is only going to make a marginal difference. I didn't ask you to tell me what was wrong with my setup, only whether its expected that 2.6 would be less useful in a UP setup than 2.4, which I think you've answered. D __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com