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From: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
To: kiran@scalex86.org
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	bharata@in.ibm.com, shai@scalex86.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 9/11] net: dst_entry.refcount, use, lastuse to use alloc_percpu
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:12:16 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050913.151216.48124942.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050913220737.GA6249@localhost.localdomain>

From: Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:07:37 -0700

> Agreed the dst changes are ugly; that can be worked on.  But the
> cacheline bouncing problem on the atomic_t dst_entry refcounter has
> been around for quite a while -- even on SMPs, not just NUMA.  We
> need a solution for that.  I thought you were against the dst_entry
> bloat caused by the previous version of the dst patch.  alloc_percpu
> takes that away.  You had concerns about workloads with low route
> locality. Unfortunately we don't have access to infrastructure setup
> for such tests :(

You don't have two computers connected on a network?

All you need is that, load a bunch of routes into one system that
point to an IP address which you just force an ARP entry for (so it
just gets lost in the ether) and then generate a rDOS workload through
it from another machine using pktgen.

I'm fine with funny per-cpu memory allocation strategies, perhaps
(would have to see a patch doing _only_ that to be sure).

But using bigrefs, no way.  We have enough trouble making the data
structures small without adding bloat like that.  A busy server can
have hundreds of thousands of dst cache entries active on it, and they
chew up enough memory as is.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-13 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-13 15:51 [patch 0/11] mm: Reimplementation of dynamic per-cpu allocator Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 15:54 ` [patch 1/11] mm: Reimplementation of dynamic per-cpu allocator -- vmalloc_fixup Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 19:25   ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-13 15:56 ` [patch 2/11] mm: Reimplementation of dynamic per-cpu allocator -- alloc_percpu Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 15:58 ` [patch 3/11] mm: Reimplementation of dynamic per-cpu allocator -- alloc_percpu_atomic Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 15:59 ` [patch 4/11] mm: Reimplementation of dynamic per-cpu allocator -- change_alloc_percpu_users Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 16:01 ` [patch 5/11] mm: Bigrefs -- add_getcpuptr Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 16:04 ` [patch 6/11] mm: Bigrefs -- distributed refcounters Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 16:10 ` [patch 7/11] net: Use bigrefs for net_device.refcount Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 16:26   ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-09-13 16:35     ` Ben Greear
2005-09-13 16:46       ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-09-13 20:26     ` David S. Miller
2005-09-13 22:16       ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 18:27   ` Eric Dumazet
2005-09-13 18:53     ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 16:12 ` [patch 8/11] net: dst_abstraction macros Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 16:17 ` [patch 9/11] net: dst_entry.refcount, use, lastuse to use alloc_percpu Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 20:24   ` David S. Miller
2005-09-13 22:07     ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 22:12       ` David S. Miller [this message]
2005-09-13 23:17         ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 23:27           ` David S. Miller
2005-09-14  7:21             ` Rusty Russell
2005-09-13 16:18 ` [patch 10/11] mm: Reimplementation of dynamic per-cpu allocator -- allow_early_mapvmarea Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-09-13 16:19 ` [patch 11/11] mm: Reimplementation of dynamic per-cpu allocator -- hotplug_alloc_percpu_blocks Ravikiran G Thirumalai

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