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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Ingo Oeser <ioe-lkml@rameria.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gfiala@s.netic.de
Subject: Re: large files unnecessary trashing filesystem cache?
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:49:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051019124927.643a0603.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200510191754.17963.ioe-lkml@rameria.de>

Ingo Oeser <ioe-lkml@rameria.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> On Wednesday 19 October 2005 13:10, gfiala@s.netic.de wrote:
> > Zitat von Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>:

Please don't edit Cc lines.  Just do reply-to-all.

> > > So I'd also suggest a new resource limit which, if set, is copied into the
> > > applications's file_structs on open().  So you then write a little wrapper
> > > app which does setrlimit()+exec():
> > > 
> > > 	limit-cache-usage -s 1000 my-fave-backup-program <args>
> > > 
> > > Which will cause every file which my-fave-backup-program reads or writes to
> > > be limited to a maximum pagecache residency of 1000 kbytes.
> > 
> > Or make it another 'ulimit' parameter...

That's what I said.  ulimit is the shell interface to resource limits.

> Which is already there: There is an ulimit for "maximum RSS", 
> which is at least a superset of "maximum pagecache residency".

RSS is a quite separate concept from pagecache.

> This is already settable and known by many admins. But AFAIR it is not
> honoured by the kernel completely, right?
> 
> But per file is a much better choice, since this would allow
> concurrent streaming. This is needed to implement timeshifting at least[1].
> 
> So either I miss something or this is no proper solution yet.

I described a couple of ways in which this can be done from userspace with
LD_PRELOAD.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-19 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-18 20:01 Guido Fiala
2005-10-18 20:48 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-20 15:23   ` Guido Fiala
2005-10-19  3:02 ` Andrew James Wade
2005-10-19  4:37   ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-19  5:45     ` Andrew James Wade
2005-10-19 11:01       ` gfiala
2005-10-19 11:10     ` gfiala
2005-10-19 15:54       ` Ingo Oeser
2005-10-19 19:49         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2005-10-19 22:26           ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-20  6:28           ` Ingo Oeser
2005-10-19  4:10 ` Lee Revell
2005-10-19 15:43   ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-19 17:58   ` Guido Fiala
2005-10-19 18:43     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-10-19 18:52       ` Guido Fiala
     [not found] <4Z5WG-1iM-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <4Z6zs-27l-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-10-18 21:58   ` Bodo Eggert
2005-10-18 23:05     ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-10-19  0:20       ` David Lang
2005-10-19  0:33       ` Fawad Lateef
2005-10-19  1:42         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-10-19  7:23       ` Bodo Eggert
2005-10-19 11:06         ` gfiala
2005-10-19 13:43     ` Avi Kivity

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