From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Cc: James.Bottomley@steeleye.com, torvalds@osdl.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, len.brown@intel.com,
jgarzik@pobox.com, tony.luck@intel.com, bcollins@debian.org,
scjody@modernduck.com, dwmw2@infradead.org, rolandd@cisco.com,
davej@codemonkey.org.uk, axboe@suse.de, shaggy@austin.ibm.com,
sfrench@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: merge status
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:25:15 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051109162515.39608d08.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200511101116.47034.kernel@kolivas.org>
Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:01 am, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com> wrote:
> > > it's my contributors who drop me in it
> > > by leaving their patch sets until you declare a kernel, dumping the
> > > integration testing on me in whatever time window is left.
> >
> > Yes, I think I'm noticing an uptick in patches as soon as a kernel is
> > released.
> >
> > It's a bit irritating, and is unexpected (here, at least). I guess people
> > like to hold onto their work for as long as possible so when they release
> > it, it's in the best possible shape.
>
> I suspect part of that is the concern about whether the code will merge with
> whatever -mm looks like next. Of course you already do ludicrous amounts of
> merging, but sometimes you'll just throw it back and say "too many rejects".
Well of course that's not a concern for people who work against the git
trees - scsi/usb/ia64/whatever developers.
But yes, sometimes people's work does clash just too much with things which
are already in subsystem trees or in -mm. Fortunately it's relatively
rare, and I do think it's best to ask people to develop against latest
-linus rather than against a crazy -mmoving target.
Especially as lots of people are stuck using git, rather than high-tech
patch management technologies ;)
Actually, I disagree with you - it's at 2.6.x release-time that all trees,
including -mm are at their most divergent. Presumably these developers are
working against the relevant subsystem git tree, and hence can merge into
the subsystem maintainer at any time.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-10 0:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-09 21:35 Andrew Morton
2005-11-09 21:50 ` James Bottomley
2005-11-09 22:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-09 22:25 ` James Bottomley
2005-11-09 22:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-10 7:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-09 23:01 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-09 23:09 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-11-09 23:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-10 13:28 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-10 0:16 ` Con Kolivas
2005-11-10 0:25 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2005-11-10 0:24 ` James Bottomley
2005-11-10 8:40 ` Jens Axboe
2005-11-10 8:56 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-10 9:22 ` Jens Axboe
2005-11-10 9:30 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-10 9:57 ` git branches strategy (was Re: merge status) Jeff Garzik
2005-11-10 13:22 ` merge status Dave Kleikamp
2005-11-10 13:26 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-14 20:13 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-09 22:05 ` Roland Dreier
2005-11-09 22:12 ` Jody McIntyre
2005-11-09 22:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-09 22:23 ` Jody McIntyre
2005-11-09 22:45 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-09 22:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-09 22:13 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-11-09 22:48 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-09 22:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-09 22:41 ` Russell King
2005-11-10 7:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-10 8:41 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] <OF4A6DAD74.A56B078E-ON872570B4.007A77CE-862570B4.007AC8BB@us.ibm.com>
2005-11-09 22:23 ` David Woodhouse
2005-11-09 22:54 Luck, Tony
2005-11-09 23:21 ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-10 7:38 Brown, Len
2005-11-10 7:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-10 8:19 ` Keith Owens
2005-11-10 17:17 Luck, Tony
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