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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@cpushare.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: disable tsc with seccomp
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:24:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051121172444.GB20775@brahms.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051121171616.GH14746@opteron.random>

On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 06:16:16PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 06:05:17PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 05:43:49PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > > Since there was no feedback to my last post, I assume you agree, so
> > > please backout the tsc disable so then I can plug the performane counter
> > > disable on top of it (at zero additional runtime cost).
> > 
> > Sorry I don't agree.
> 
> You've the config option, turn that off on your systems, what's the
> problem with that?
> 
> Or does this mean I need to ship kernels myself with covert channels
> made mathematically impossible with seccomp enabled? I'd rather avoid

I don't believe theoretical, unlikely to be usable in any way
covert channels are a justification to make fast paths slower. 
That's independent of CONFIG options.

And in addition your change doesn't even close that channel
in theory.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-21 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-05 13:47 Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-05 15:37 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-05 16:07   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-05 16:12     ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-05 16:31       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-05 17:04         ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-06  1:55           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-21 16:43             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-21 17:05               ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-21 17:16                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-21 17:24                   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2005-11-21 17:38                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-11-21 18:40                       ` Andrea Arcangeli

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