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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Alfred Brons <alfredbrons@yahoo.com>,
	pocm@sat.inesc-id.pt, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: what is our answer to ZFS?
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:28:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051122102812.GA11630@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051122075148.GB20476@infradead.org>

On Tue, 22 November 2005 07:51:48 +0000, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> 
> > o 128 bit
> >   On 32bit machines, you can't even fully utilize a 64bit filesystem
> >   without VFS changes.  Have you ever noticed?  Thought so.
> 
> What is a '128 bit' or '64 bit' filesystem anyway?  This description doesn't
> make any sense,  as there are many different things that can be
> addresses in filesystems, and those can be addressed in different ways.
> I guess from the marketing documents that they do 128 bit _byte_ addressing
> for diskspace.  All the interesting Linux filesystems do _block_ addressing
> though, and 64bits addressing large enough blocks is quite huge.
> 128bit inodes again is something could couldn't easily implement, it would
> mean a non-scalar ino_t type which guarantees to break userspace.  128
> i_size?  Again that would totally break userspace because it expects off_t
> to be a scalar, so every single file must fit into 64bit _byte_ addressing.
> If the surrounding enviroment changes (e.g. we get a 128bit scalar type
> on 64bit architectures) that could change pretty easily, similarly to how
> ext2 got a 64bit i_size during the 2.3.x LFS work.

...once the need arises.  Even with byte addressing, 64 bit are enough
to handle roughly 46116860 of the biggest hard disks currently
available.  Looks like we still have a bit of time to think about the
problem before action is required.

Jörn

-- 
Victory in war is not repetitious.
-- Sun Tzu

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-22 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-21  9:28 Alfred Brons
2005-11-21  9:44 ` Paulo Jorge Matos
2005-11-21  9:59   ` Alfred Brons
2005-11-21 10:08     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-11-21 10:16     ` Andreas Happe
2005-11-21 11:30       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-11-21 10:19     ` Jörn Engel
2005-11-21 11:46       ` Matthias Andree
2005-11-21 12:07         ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-11-21 13:18           ` Matthias Andree
2005-11-21 14:18             ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-11-21 14:41               ` Matthias Andree
2005-11-21 15:08                 ` Kasper Sandberg
2005-11-22  8:52                   ` Matthias Andree
2005-11-21 22:41               ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-21 20:48             ` jdow
2005-11-22 11:17               ` Jörn Engel
2005-11-21 11:59       ` Diego Calleja
2005-11-22  7:51       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-11-22 10:28         ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2005-11-22 14:50         ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-11-22 15:25           ` Jan Harkes
2005-11-22 16:17             ` Chris Adams
2005-11-22 16:55               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-11-22 17:18                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-11-22 19:25                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-11-22 19:52                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-11-22 20:00                       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-11-22 23:02                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-11-22 21:14                       ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-22 21:06                 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-22 20:19               ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 19:56                 ` Chris Adams
2005-11-22 21:19                   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-23 19:20                   ` Generation numbers in stat was Re: what is slashdot's " Andi Kleen
2005-11-24  5:15                     ` Chris Adams
2005-11-24  8:47                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-22 16:28             ` what is our " Theodore Ts'o
2005-11-22 17:37               ` Jan Harkes
2005-11-22 16:36                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-28 12:53       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-11-29  5:04         ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-11-29  5:57           ` Willy Tarreau
2005-11-29 14:42             ` John Stoffel
2005-11-29 13:58           ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-29 16:03           ` Chris Adams
2005-11-21 11:45     ` Diego Calleja
2005-11-21 14:19       ` Tarkan Erimer
2005-11-21 18:52         ` Rob Landley
2005-11-21 19:28           ` Diego Calleja
2005-11-21 20:02           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-11-22  5:42             ` Rob Landley
2005-11-22  9:25               ` Matthias Andree
2005-11-21 23:05           ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-22  0:15           ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-11-21 22:59             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-22  7:45               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-11-22  9:19                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-22 16:00               ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-22 16:09                 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-22 20:16                   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-22 16:14                 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-11-22 16:38                   ` Steve Flynn
2005-11-22  7:15             ` Rob Landley
2005-11-22  8:16               ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-11-22  0:45           ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-22  6:34             ` Rob Landley
2005-11-22 19:05               ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-22  9:20           ` Matthias Andree
2005-11-22 10:00             ` Tarkan Erimer
2005-11-22 15:46               ` Jan Dittmer
2005-11-22 16:27               ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-21 18:17       ` Rob Landley
2005-11-24  1:52 art

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