From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965175AbVKVUni (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:43:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965179AbVKVUnh (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:43:37 -0500 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.194]:52540 "EHLO wproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965175AbVKVUng convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:43:36 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XjZ2h+NufIRQHPBcHroWXAAp59ZL29ki4RzKycoitVEPl9paJxW3GzcTj/3tsot6bKkXZJxR4uzW9l3BVZc6BVEkl2V0xhPgXntRaruQWqeFjPsqvMzBSzeVtDNfdNXLZtSI1PDcGjfE5zeDYqGBcynjGZ4LGID9b6HJ2oBgrd8= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:43:27 +0100 From: Diego Calleja To: Avi Kivity Cc: jgarzik@pobox.com, jonsmirl@gmail.com, benh@kernel.crashing.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, airlied@gmail.com, greg@kroah.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC] Small PCI core patch Message-Id: <20051122214327.37b902e4.diegocg@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <43837AD1.7060504@argo.co.il> References: <20051121225303.GA19212@kroah.com> <20051121230136.GB19212@kroah.com> <1132616132.26560.62.camel@gaston> <21d7e9970511211647r4df761a2l287715368bf89eb6@mail.gmail.com> <1132623268.20233.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1132626478.26560.104.camel@gaston> <9e4733910511211923r69cdb835pf272ac745ae24ed7@mail.gmail.com> <43833D61.9050400@argo.co.il> <20051122155143.GA30880@havoc.gtf.org> <43834400.3040506@argo.co.il> <20051122172650.72f454de.diegocg@gmail.com> <438348BB.1050504@argo.co.il> <20051122204910.a4bd1d1e.diegocg@gmail.com> <43837AD1.7060504@argo.co.il> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.1.6 (GTK+ 2.8.3; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org El Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:08:49 +0200, Avi Kivity escribió: > None of the desktop Windows installations I'm aware of exhibit this. The > recent versions of Windows are fairly stable. You don't seem to check frecuently windows help forums, where some people speaks of nvidia as the number 1 "bluescreener"... Lots of windows drivers _are_ crappy. It's just a fact - some companies hire the wrong people. Some companies (like nvidia) get money from being fast, not from stability. This is a good example from a microsoft programmer about how some companies cheat the WHQL certification to get faster drivers... http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/03/05/84469.aspx This one about silent install of drivers by "smart" installers is fun too: http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2005/08/16/452141.aspx > Many people have hyperthreaded CPUs today. Hypertreaded CPUs can't run the two virtual cpus at the same time, real smps can so the probability should be smaller (this would be an interesting topic for another thread though ;) > It works well on the server, where Linux has a large and rising market Linux didn't always have a large market share on servers. Again, history has shown that the path taken by linux until now is succesful.