From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
Cc: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@wolfmountaingroup.com>,
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Gerd Knorr <kraxel@suse.de>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Pratap Subrahmanyam <pratap@vmware.com>,
Christopher Li <chrisl@vmware.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [patch] SMP alternatives
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:12:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051128231239.GC7209@brahms.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <438B8BF8.4020604@vmware.com>
> I'm not sure a hardware solution is even the right thing - consider a
> shared memory database process with a private heap. You really want
> locks on the shared memory, and you really don't on the heap.
>
> You need a way to type the lock semantics by memory region, and a
> working hardware solution can not perform as well as a careful software
> solution. As was pointed out earlier, you can't use memory type
The problem is that nobody will change all the software.
Your careful software solution will only benefit a small
minority of performance conscious and well tuned programs.
The hardware solution might not be perfect, but has a good chance
to apply to 90% of the "don't care" programs and help them all a bit.
And every bit counts in the quest for more single thread performance.
And if someone wants to fine tune their programs they can
still change the software as much as they want.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-28 23:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-10 0:32 [PATCH 1/10] Cr4 is valid on some 486s Zachary Amsden
2005-11-11 10:36 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-11 17:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-11 18:00 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-11-11 19:36 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-11 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-11 20:14 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-11 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-13 7:42 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-13 10:59 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-13 17:26 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-13 17:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-13 19:00 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-13 19:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-13 19:41 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-13 19:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-13 21:32 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-14 7:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-13 19:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-13 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-13 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-14 15:06 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-14 19:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-14 19:46 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-14 19:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-14 20:34 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-14 20:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-15 14:12 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-15 16:01 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-15 16:04 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-15 16:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-15 16:10 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-15 16:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-15 16:19 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-15 16:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-15 16:34 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-15 16:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-15 16:24 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-15 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-15 16:16 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-15 16:08 ` Roland Dreier
2005-11-16 9:58 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-15 16:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-15 16:16 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-15 16:27 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-16 16:12 ` [RFC] SMP alternatives Gerd Knorr
2005-11-22 17:48 ` [patch] " Gerd Knorr
2005-11-22 18:01 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-23 15:12 ` Vincent Hanquez
2005-11-23 19:17 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 15:29 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-23 16:42 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 16:39 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 17:21 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 16:59 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:00 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-24 13:13 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 13:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-24 13:39 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 13:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-24 19:16 ` thockin
2005-11-24 19:26 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 14:34 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-24 14:22 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 15:15 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-24 14:55 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 15:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-24 15:36 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 16:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-24 19:12 ` thockin
2005-11-24 19:14 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 19:24 ` thockin
2005-11-24 19:29 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 19:44 ` thockin
2005-11-24 21:20 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 21:40 ` thockin
2005-11-24 23:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-24 23:12 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-24 22:48 ` thockin
2005-11-24 23:35 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-25 0:13 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-25 1:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-28 19:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-24 16:02 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-24 19:09 ` thockin
2005-11-24 14:30 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 17:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 18:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 17:26 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-23 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 19:31 ` jmerkey
2005-11-23 18:46 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 19:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 19:30 ` jmerkey
2005-11-23 21:44 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 21:13 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 21:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-23 22:23 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:30 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-23 22:05 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 21:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-23 21:36 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 21:43 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 22:22 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 22:32 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 22:40 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 23:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-24 0:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-23 21:48 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-23 21:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 22:03 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-23 22:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 23:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-23 23:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 22:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 22:20 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-23 23:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 23:02 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-23 23:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-23 23:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-24 2:06 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-24 22:32 ` Ulrich Drepper
2005-11-28 19:58 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-24 1:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-24 13:01 ` Pádraig Brady
2005-11-24 13:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-28 19:52 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-28 20:05 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-28 22:19 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-28 23:00 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-28 23:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-28 23:30 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-28 23:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-28 23:12 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2005-11-23 22:50 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 22:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-25 7:38 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-11-25 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-28 20:25 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-25 20:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-24 3:23 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-11-24 3:31 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-11-24 3:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-24 22:30 ` Ulrich Drepper
2005-11-23 16:43 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-23 16:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-24 17:48 linux
2005-11-24 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-24 18:24 colin
2006-01-24 15:33 [PATCH] " Gerd Hoffmann
2006-01-24 16:22 ` Ben Collins
2006-01-25 9:20 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2006-01-26 10:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-26 11:17 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2006-01-26 11:48 ` Pavel Machek
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