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From: Wu Fengguang <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
To: Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <Linux-Kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/16] mm: delayed page activation
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 21:53:47 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051207135347.GB6141@mail.ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17302.55593.531594.871250@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 03:44:25PM +0300, Nikita Danilov wrote:
> Wu Fengguang writes:
>  > Yes, it also increased the lifetimes by meaningful values: first re-accessed
>  > pages are prolonged more lifetime. Immediately removing them from inactive_list 
>  > is basicly doing MRU eviction.
> 
> Are you talking about CLOCK-pro here? I don't understand your statement
> in the context of current VM: if the "first re-accessed" page was close
> to the cold tail of the inactive list, and "second re-accessed" page was
> close to the head of the inactive list, then life-time of second one is
> increased by larger amount.

Sorry, I fail to mention that I'm comparing two pages that are read in at the
same time, therefore they are in the same place in inactive_list. But their
re-access time can be quite different.

There are roughly two kinds of reads: almost instantly and slowly forward. For
the former one, read-in-time = first-access-time, unless for initial cache misses.
The latter one is the original purpose of of the patch: to keep one chunk of
read-ahead pages together, instead of let them littering throughout the lru
list.

>  > Delayed activation increased scanning activity, while immediate activation
>  > increased the locking activity. Early profiling data on a 2 CPU Xeon box showed
>  > that the delayed activation acctually cost less time.
> 
> That's great, but current mark_page_accessed() has an important
> advantage: the work is done by the process that accessed the page in
> read/write path, or at page fault. By delegating activation to the VM
> scanner, the burden of work is shifted to the innocent thread that
> happened to trigger scanning during page allocation.

Thanks to notice it. It will happen in the direct page reclaim path. But I have
just made interesting tests of the patch, in which direct page reclaims were
reduced to zero. Till now I have no hint of why this is happening :)

Wu

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-07 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-03  7:14 [PATCH 00/16] Adaptive read-ahead V9 Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 01/16] mm: delayed page activation Wu Fengguang
2005-12-04 12:11   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-12-04 13:48     ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-04 15:03       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-12-04 15:37         ` Help!Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer tony
2005-12-04 19:10         ` [PATCH 01/16] mm: delayed page activation Peter Zijlstra
2005-12-05  1:48         ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-06 17:55           ` Nikita Danilov
2005-12-07  1:42             ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-07  9:46               ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-07 10:36                 ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-07 12:44               ` Nikita Danilov
2005-12-07 13:53                 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 02/16] radixtree: sync with mainline Wu Fengguang
2005-12-04 23:57   ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-05  1:43     ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-05  4:05     ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-05 17:22       ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-05 10:44     ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-05 17:24       ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-06  2:23         ` Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 03/16] radixtree: look-aside cache Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 04/16] readahead: some preparation Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 05/16] readahead: call scheme Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 06/16] readahead: parameters Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 07/16] readahead: state based method Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 08/16] readahead: context " Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 09/16] readahead: read-around method for mmap file Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 10/16] readahead: other methods Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 11/16] readahead: detect and rescue live pages Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 12/16] readahead: events accounting Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 13/16] readahead: laptop mode support Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 14/16] readahead: disable look-ahead for loopback file Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:14 ` [PATCH 15/16] readahead: nfsd support Wu Fengguang
2005-12-03  7:15 ` [PATCH 16/16] io: prevent too much latency in the read-ahead code Wu Fengguang
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-09 13:49 [PATCH 00/16] Adaptive read-ahead V7 Wu Fengguang
2005-11-09 13:49 ` [PATCH 01/16] mm: delayed page activation Wu Fengguang
2005-11-10  0:21   ` Nick Piggin
2005-11-10  3:15     ` Wu Fengguang
2005-11-10  9:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2005-11-10 10:30     ` Wu Fengguang

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