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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
	Daniel Petrini <d.pensator@gmail.com>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	vatsa@in.ibm.com, ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>,
	Adam Belay <abelay@novell.com>,
	Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@arm.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] i386 No Idle HZ aka dynticks 051221
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:27:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051226232712.GH1974@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051226225246.GA9915@thunk.org>

On Po 26-12-05 17:52:48, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:38:06PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Stupid IBM. I've seen it appearing/disappearing, but did not work out
> > when.
> > 
> > No-C4-on-AC is bad -- if you just disconnect AC and walk away, you are
> > running without benefits of C4. Bad. Changing benchmarks depending on
> > you booting on AC or battery also look nasty.
> 
> The moment you disconnect AC, it C4 automagically appears.  When you
> reconnect to the AC mains, the C4 state disappears again, at least
> from the listing displayed by /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/power.  So the
> first issue you brought up isn't a problem.

It does not seem to work like that here. I'm not sure what the exact
rules are, but I know that I sometimes have C4 and sometimes not. I
have C4 now, and it is used, even when I'm on AC power. Thinkpad X32.

> More of an issue is that there are times when the laptop might think
> that it's running of the AC mains, but in fact the owner may have
> connected an external battery, and might _want_ the system to be as
> frugal as possible with the power.

Yes... OTOH it is not that bad -- we could simply hardcode data from
acpi BIOS into kernel, ignore what ACPI says, and drive C4 even on AC
power. But that would be hack (tm). 

> Whether I boot from AC power battery seems to be immaterial; what
> seems to matter is whether or not the laptop is running on battery at
> the moment that /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/power is sampled.

I did not realize ACPI was _that_ clever. Anyway, it is different on
my machine...
								Pavel
-- 
Thanks, Sharp!

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-26 23:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-20 16:10 Con Kolivas
2005-12-20 17:27 ` Jan De Luyck
2005-12-20 19:39   ` Daniel Petrini
2005-12-20 20:46     ` Jan De Luyck
2005-12-25 17:16 ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-12-26  2:55   ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-12-26 18:47     ` Matthew Garrett
2005-12-26 18:56     ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-12-26 20:03     ` Dominik Brodowski
2005-12-26 20:38     ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-26 22:52       ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-12-26 23:27         ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-12-27 14:03           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-27 14:22             ` C4 strangeness [was Re: [PATCH] i386 No Idle HZ aka dynticks 051221] Pavel Machek
2005-12-27 15:33               ` C4 non-strangeness [was: " Dominik Brodowski
2005-12-27 16:13                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-26 22:19     ` [PATCH] i386 No Idle HZ aka dynticks 051221 Dominik Brodowski
2005-12-27  0:33       ` Theodore Ts'o

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