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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net>
Cc: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] LED: Add IDE disk activity LED trigger
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:35:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060131203552.GG4215@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1138724479.6869.201.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, Jan 31 2006, Richard Purdie wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 15:46 +0100, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> > 
> > Why cannot existing block layer hook be used for this?
> 
> The trigger is supposed to be reflecting actual hardware activity, not
> block layer activity.
> 
> I'll experiment with the feasibility of the block later as I've always
> been uneasy about the hooks into the lower level layers. There are a
> number of issues to consider though.
> 
> 1. The block layer isn't always aware of device activity (eg. flash
> block erasing in mtd devices) (is this the case for IDE?).
> 
> 2. Default trigger naming becomes problematic for led devices. Currently
> an MMC card reader's LED could set its trigger to say "mmc-disk" and end
> up with some kind of sensible activity light. (ignoring the more than
> one card reader case where all the lights would be synced :).
> 
> A potential solution would be to add individual gendisk triggers by
> hooking add_disk/del_disk. The MMC read would presumably know its
> major/minor number before registering its LED. 
> 
> I'm not sure how to intercept disk activity for a given gendisk offhand.
> There is also a question of where the led_trigger pointers end up.
> struct gendisk may or may not be acceptable.
> 
> 3. Matching something like all IDE disks becomes hard (and is actually
> more desirable than individual devices at times - see below). 
> 
> At first glance a potential solution would be to hook
> register_blkdev/unregister_blkdev and create yet more triggers but where
> do you hook the activity? There is no data structure the led trigger
> pointer can be part of either.
> 
> These solutions are going to end up with a lot of unused led triggers on
> any given system. 

Perhaps a generic solution isn't feasible, because this isn't really a
generic problem. The LED stuff has very limited use - you mention
embedded platforms, perhaps they should just be doing this on their own?

Generally I'm finding a hard time justifying an LED api, honestly. It
just feels like one of those things where the actual abstraction ends up
being a lot bigger than code needed. Abstracting and creating an API
isn't always useful.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-31 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-31 13:41 Richard Purdie
2006-01-31 14:46 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-31 16:21   ` Richard Purdie
2006-01-31 17:44     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-31 20:29       ` Jens Axboe
2006-01-31 22:08       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-01-31 23:39         ` Richard Purdie
2006-02-04 15:29       ` Richard Purdie
2006-01-31 20:35     ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2006-01-31 21:22       ` Jordan Crouse
2006-02-01  0:12         ` Matt Reimer
2006-02-02  1:32         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-31 22:03       ` [PATCH 10/11] " Richard Purdie
2006-02-02 11:07       ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-01 16:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-04  9:54   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw

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