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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Avoid moving tasks when a schedule can be made.
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:22:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060201142249.GB6277@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43E0C127.8060401@yahoo.com.au>


* Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> >rwsems/rwlocks are not an issue in -rt because they have different 
> >semantics there - and thus readers cannot amass. I do think rwsems and 
> >rwlocks have pretty nasty characteristics [non-latency ones] for the 
> >mainline kernel's use too, but that's not being argued here ;)
> 
> But all I'm saying is that while there are equivalent magnitudes of 
> interrupts off regions in mainline, there is little point introducing 
> a hack like this to "solve" one of them.

nobody is arguing to have this hack included. Hacks are to be introduced 
into the scheduler only over my cold dead body ;-) Steve only sent this 
as an RFC thing, to raise the issue.

> If anyone is running hackbench 20 on their sound mixer, then they 
> deserve to have overruns.

just to give you an idea of what we have achieved with the -rt kernel so 
far: my regular -rt stress-test setup has a "hackbench 50" in its 
"deadly mix of SCHED_OTHER workloads", in addition to 40 parallel runs 
of LTP runalltests.sh, with flood pinging and other networking and IO 
stresstests, combined with a task that allocates and dirties a 1.5GB 
buffer in an infinite loop while there's only 1GB of RAM - and still 
during many hours of running this stress-test (which produces a load 
average of 200-500) the -rt kernel runs SCHED_FIFO tasks in 20 usecs, 
worst-case.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-01 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-31 19:43 Steven Rostedt
2006-02-01  3:36 ` Peter Williams
2006-02-01 12:44   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-02-01 13:06     ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-01 13:10       ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-01 13:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-01 13:47           ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-01 13:54             ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-01 14:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-01 14:25                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-01 14:37                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-01 14:54                     ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-01 15:11                       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-01 15:31                         ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-01 16:10                           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-01 16:25                             ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-01 17:24                               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-06 11:21                                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-01 14:00             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-01 14:09               ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-01 14:22                 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-02-01 14:32                   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-02-02  1:26     ` Peter Williams
2006-02-02  2:48       ` Steven Rostedt
2006-02-02  3:19         ` Peter Williams
2006-02-01 13:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-01 13:11   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-02  1:42     ` Peter Williams
2006-02-02  2:51       ` Steven Rostedt
2006-02-01 13:15   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-02-01 13:23   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-02-01 13:26     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-01 16:11       ` Steven Rostedt

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