From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S964847AbWBGK4W (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Feb 2006 05:56:22 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S964982AbWBGK4W (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Feb 2006 05:56:22 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.21]:47595 "HELO mail.gmx.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S964847AbWBGK4V (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Feb 2006 05:56:21 -0500 X-Authenticated: #428038 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 11:56:15 +0100 From: Matthias Andree To: Joerg Schilling Cc: matthias.andree@gmx.de, mrmacman_g4@mac.com, mj@ucw.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de, James@superbug.co.uk, j@bitron.ch, acahalan@gmail.com, 7eggert@gmx.de Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) Message-ID: <20060207105615.GA2818@merlin.emma.line.org> Mail-Followup-To: Joerg Schilling , mrmacman_g4@mac.com, mj@ucw.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de, James@superbug.co.uk, j@bitron.ch, acahalan@gmail.com, 7eggert@gmx.de References: <5ALb5-5kV-43@gated-at.bofh.it> <5B15G-39W-17@gated-at.bofh.it> <5B1Im-4cW-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <5B3TN-7AV-9@gated-at.bofh.it> <5Bs5Z-1BT-17@gated-at.bofh.it> <5BJgx-1fE-13@gated-at.bofh.it> <43E36084.nail5CAJ14LO3@burner> <20060203193056.GD18533@merlin.emma.line.org> <43E76163.nail7GN513UL9@burner> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43E76163.nail7GN513UL9@burner> X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Joerg Schilling schrieb am 2006-02-06: > Kernel developers should listen to the right application developers > (in special when they may have more kernel skills) to find out > what's needed. Your skills are misrepresenting facts, ignoring uncomfortable questions, and shifting the blame you have to take on others. These are skills that make you belong to the "wrong" application developers that a kernel developer will not listen to. You demand cooperation, but you only see it as cooperation if people do as _you_ say. You put up artificial limits in your applications to "prove" some kernel is wrong. Is there anyone who does not see this as some kind of campaign of yours? -- Matthias Andree