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From: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: calibrate_migration_costs takes ages on s390
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:13:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060213161303.GA9315@osiris.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060213104645.GA17173@elte.hu>

> > The boot sequence on s390 sometimes takes ages and we spend a very 
> > long time (up to one or two minutes) in calibrate_migration_costs. The 
> > time spent there differs from boot to boot. Also the calculated costs 
> > differ a lot. I've seen differences by up to a factor of 15 (yes, 
> > factor not percent). Also I doubt that making these measurements make 
> > much sense on a completely virtualized architecture where you cannot 
> > tell how much cpu time you will get anyway. Is there any workaround or 
> > fix available so we can avoid seeing this?
> 
> which is the precise kernel version used? We toned down calibration a 
> bit recently.

2.6.16-rc3.

> The immediate workaround would be to use the migration_cost=0 boot 
> parameter.
> 
> Generally, i agree that it makes sense to not calibrate at all on 
> virtual platforms. Does the patch below help?  It gives virtual 
> platforms a way to provide a default migration cost and thus avoid the 
> boot-time calibration altogether. (I have tested it on x86, it does the 
> expected thing.) This needs to hit v2.6.16 too.

Yes, calibrate_migration_costs is very fast now. But it turned out that
this was just hiding the real problem: if we have CONFIG_PREEMPT disabled
the kernel gets (sometimes) unbelievably slow.
I think this happened somewhere between rc1 and rc3. Maybe Hannes knows
more exactly when this happened the first time, since I always run with
CONFIG_PREEMPT enabled.

Heiko

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-13 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-13 10:26 Heiko Carstens
2006-02-13 10:34 ` David S. Miller
2006-02-13 10:54   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-13 20:57     ` David S. Miller
2006-02-13 10:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-13 16:13   ` Heiko Carstens [this message]
2006-02-13 23:42   ` Olaf Hering
2006-02-14  0:08     ` Olaf Hering
2006-02-14  8:09       ` Heiko Carstens
2006-02-14 10:56         ` Heiko Carstens
2006-02-14 12:35           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-14 12:37             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-16  6:27   ` Heiko Carstens

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