From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, drepper@redhat.com,
tglx@linutronix.de, arjan@infradead.org, dsingleton@mvista.com
Subject: Re: [patch 0/5] lightweight robust futexes: -V1
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:45:56 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060215134556.57cec83a.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060215151711.GA31569@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> E.g. in David Singleton's robust-futex-6.patch, there are 3 new syscall
> variants to sys_futex(): FUTEX_REGISTER, FUTEX_DEREGISTER and
> FUTEX_RECOVER. The kernel attaches such robust futexes to vmas (via
> vma->vm_file->f_mapping->robust_head), and at do_exit() time, all vmas
> are searched to see whether they have a robust_head set.
hm. What happened if the futex was in anonymous memory (vm_file==NULL)?
> New approach to robust futexes
> ------------------------------
>
> At the heart of this new approach there is a per-thread private list of
> robust locks that userspace is holding (maintained by glibc) - which
> userspace list is registered with the kernel via a new syscall [this
> registration happens at most once per thread lifetime]. At do_exit()
> time, the kernel checks this user-space list: are there any robust futex
> locks to be cleaned up?
Neat.
>
> ...
> The list is guaranteed to be private and per-thread, so it's lockless.
>
Why is that guaranteed?? Another thread could be scribbling on it while
the kernel is walking it?
Why use a list and not just a sparse array? (realloc() works..)
>
> There is one race possible though: since adding to and removing from the
> list is done after the futex is acquired by glibc, there is a few
> instructions window for the thread (or process) to die there, leaving
> the futex hung. To protect against this possibility, userspace (glibc)
> also maintains a simple per-thread 'list_op_pending' field, to allow the
> kernel to clean up if the thread dies after acquiring the lock, but just
> before it could have added itself to the list. Glibc sets this
> list_op_pending field before it tries to acquire the futex, and clears
> it after the list-add (or list-remove) has finished.
Oh. I'm surprised that glibc cannot just add the futex to the list prior
to acquiring it, then the exit-time code can work out whether the futex was
really taken-and-contended. Even if the kernel makes a mistake it either
won't find a futex there or it won't wake anyone up.
I think the patch breaks the build if CONFIG_FUTEX=n?
The patches are misordered - with only the first patch applied, the kernel
won't build. That's a nasty little landmine for git-bisect users.
Why do we need sys_get_robust_list(other task)?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-15 21:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-15 15:17 Ingo Molnar
2006-02-15 15:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-15 17:35 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-15 17:50 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-02-15 18:42 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-15 19:49 ` Christopher Friesen
2006-02-15 20:02 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-15 20:13 ` Antonio Vargas
2006-02-15 20:25 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-15 20:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-15 20:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-15 19:05 ` Daniel Walker
2006-02-15 19:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-15 19:13 ` Daniel Walker
2006-02-15 21:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-16 15:43 ` Daniel Walker
2006-02-15 21:45 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-02-15 22:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-17 21:59 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-02-16 3:57 ` Darren Hart
2006-02-16 14:58 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-16 17:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-16 19:04 ` Daniel Walker
2006-02-17 9:09 ` Avi Kivity
2006-02-17 19:55 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-17 20:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
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