From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>, Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vserver@list.linux-vserver.org,
Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
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Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@FreeBSD.org>,
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Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>, Greg <gkurz@fr.ibm.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
Andrey Savochkin <saw@sawoct.com>,
Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: (pspace,pid) vs true pid virtualization
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:53:26 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060216175326.GA11974@sergelap.austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m17j7vqmy1.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com):
> > I think it should be acceptable if a pidspace is visible in all it's
> > ancestor pidspaces. I.e. if I create pspace2 and pspace3 from pid 234
> > in pspace1, then pspace2 doesn't need to be able to address pspace3
> > and vice versa.
>
> A good rule. Now consider pspace 4 which is a child of pid 567
> in pspace 3.
>
> What should pspace 3 see?
Implementation dependent.
What I'd like to see is:
> What should pspace 3 see?
The pid of the init process for pspace 4.
> What should pspace 1 see?
The pid of the init process for pspace 3.
> What happens when you migrate pspace 3 into a different pspace
> on a different machine?
Nothing special. "Migrate" was just a checkpoint (from pspace 1)
and a resume (from pspace N on some machine). So now pspace N on
the new machine has created a new pspace - which happens to be
immediately populated with the contents of the old pspace 3 - and
see the pid of the init process of this new pspace.
> Is there a sane implementation for this?
IMO, definately yes.
But I haven't tried it, so my opinion is just that.
-serge
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-16 17:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-15 14:59 Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-15 22:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-16 14:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-16 16:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-16 17:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2006-02-16 18:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-16 18:44 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-16 18:52 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-17 10:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-17 11:44 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-17 12:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-17 12:44 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-17 13:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-17 13:39 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-17 21:40 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-17 11:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-20 10:06 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-17 3:35 ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-17 14:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-20 9:37 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 12:47 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-20 14:34 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 15:27 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-16 14:30 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-16 15:37 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-16 17:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-16 17:57 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-20 9:54 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 18:19 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-16 16:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-16 17:41 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-16 19:12 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-16 19:38 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-16 21:11 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-20 10:10 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 9:50 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 13:00 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-20 14:44 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 15:36 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-20 9:13 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 18:07 ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-15 23:24 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-16 5:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-20 9:17 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 20:01 ` Sam Vilain
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