From: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Cc: Samuel Masham <samuel.masham@gmail.com>,
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:09:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060222180909.GA16738@MAIL.13thfloor.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060222121542.GE4661@stusta.de>
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 01:15:42PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 01:01:21PM +0100, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 04:10:01AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >...
> > > Except for the X86_P4_CLOCKMOD case, all of your examples are correct
> > > usages of EMBEDDED.
> >
> > ahem, well, then I'm definitely doing something
> > wrong when I disable the VGA console on my 2GB
> > servers, as "there's no reason to enable EMBEDDED
> > when building a kernel for systems with > 50 MB RAM"
> >
> > sorry, I kind of disagree here, this might be useful
> > for embedded systems, but it is definitely useful
> > for other systems as well ... at least I do not like
> > the 'assumption' that every system with >50MB has
> > to have a VGA console ...
> >
> > I agree that the 0815 distro will not need this and
> > it can be hidden behind some option ...
>
> It's not assumed that every system with > 50 MB has a VGA console.
>
> These are options where accidentially disabling only causes problems
> for the majority of users.
>
> You can enable EMBEDDED on your 2 GB servers if you really want
> to save a few bytes in the kernel, but OTOH I doubt there is much
> practival value in reducing the kernel for a system with 2 GB RAM by a
> few kB.
it is not the size I care about, it is the missing/disabled
vga hardware (and serial console) that I care about, but
what the hell, you consider it EMBEDDED and I don't. period.
nevertheless folks put all kind of stuff under EMBEDDED
because they _think_ it actually means _SPECIALIST_ or
_EXPERT_ and just is bad namimg ...
that's something which IMHO should be clarified, and if it
is just by adding another Kconfig option which does that
> > best,
> > Herbert
> >...
>
> cu
> Adrian
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-22 18:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-14 15:22 Adrian Bunk
2006-02-14 18:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14 18:22 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-14 23:47 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-17 15:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-17 16:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-20 3:33 ` Samuel Masham
2006-02-20 13:28 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22 1:34 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-22 2:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22 2:44 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-22 3:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22 3:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-23 19:59 ` Status of X86_P4_CLOCKMOD? Adrian Bunk
2006-02-23 20:41 ` Dave Jones
2006-02-23 23:15 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 23:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-23 23:55 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 2:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-24 2:42 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 17:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 1:57 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-25 4:24 ` Dave Jones
2006-02-25 12:53 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-27 21:17 ` Wes Felter
2006-02-25 4:27 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-25 12:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 13:28 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-26 11:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-26 20:39 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-26 20:55 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-26 23:37 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-25 13:36 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-25 13:05 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-28 19:46 ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 20:09 ` Dave Jones
2006-02-28 20:19 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-28 20:47 ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 20:57 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-28 21:26 ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 21:34 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-28 21:39 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-28 22:22 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-22 12:01 ` [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-22 12:15 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22 18:09 ` Herbert Poetzl [this message]
2006-02-25 11:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-02-25 12:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 14:22 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 14:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 15:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 15:40 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 22:01 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 22:07 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 22:23 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-26 18:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-27 7:11 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-02-27 12:59 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-02-25 14:57 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-02-15 6:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-16 23:22 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-17 1:47 ` Dmitry Torokhov
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-01-24 18:19 [PATCH] Export symbols so CONFIG_INPUT works as a module Martin Michlmayr
2006-01-24 23:08 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-01-24 23:14 ` Martin Michlmayr
2006-01-25 5:04 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-03 22:36 ` [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool Adrian Bunk
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