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From: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Cc: Samuel Masham <samuel.masham@gmail.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:09:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060222180909.GA16738@MAIL.13thfloor.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060222121542.GE4661@stusta.de>

On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 01:15:42PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 01:01:21PM +0100, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 04:10:01AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >...
> > > Except for the X86_P4_CLOCKMOD case, all of your examples are correct 
> > > usages of EMBEDDED.
> > 
> > ahem, well, then I'm definitely doing something
> > wrong when I disable the VGA console on my 2GB
> > servers, as "there's no reason to enable EMBEDDED
> > when building a kernel for systems with > 50 MB RAM"
> > 
> > sorry, I kind of disagree here, this might be useful
> > for embedded systems, but it is definitely useful
> > for other systems as well ... at least I do not like
> > the 'assumption' that every system with >50MB has
> > to have a VGA console ...
> > 
> > I agree that the 0815 distro will not need this and
> > it can be hidden behind some option ...
> 
> It's not assumed that every system with > 50 MB has a VGA console.
>
> These are options where accidentially disabling only causes problems
> for the majority of users.
>
> You can enable EMBEDDED on your 2 GB servers if you really want
> to save a few bytes in the kernel, but OTOH I doubt there is much
> practival value in reducing the kernel for a system with 2 GB RAM by a
> few kB.

it is not the size I care about, it is the missing/disabled
vga hardware (and serial console) that I care about, but
what the hell, you consider it EMBEDDED and I don't. period.

nevertheless folks put all kind of stuff under EMBEDDED
because they _think_ it actually means _SPECIALIST_ or
_EXPERT_ and just is bad namimg ...

that's something which IMHO should be clarified, and if it
is just by adding another Kconfig option which does that

> > best,
> > Herbert
> >...
> 
> cu
> Adrian
> 
> -- 
> 
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>         of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
>        "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
>                                        Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-22 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-14 15:22 Adrian Bunk
2006-02-14 18:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-14 18:22   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-14 23:47     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-17 15:56     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-17 16:38       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-20  3:33         ` Samuel Masham
2006-02-20 13:28           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22  1:34             ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-22  2:31               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22  2:44                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-22  3:10                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22  3:20                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-23 19:59                       ` Status of X86_P4_CLOCKMOD? Adrian Bunk
2006-02-23 20:41                         ` Dave Jones
2006-02-23 23:15                           ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-23 23:33                             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-23 23:55                               ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24  2:39                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-24  2:42                                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-24 17:33                                     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25  1:57                           ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-25  4:24                             ` Dave Jones
2006-02-25 12:53                               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-27 21:17                                 ` Wes Felter
2006-02-25  4:27                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-25 12:53                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 13:28                                 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-26 11:12                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-26 20:39                                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-26 20:55                                     ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-26 23:37                                       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-25 13:36                                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-25 13:05                               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-02-28 19:46                           ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 20:09                             ` Dave Jones
2006-02-28 20:19                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-28 20:47                               ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 20:57                                 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-28 21:26                                   ` Matt Mackall
2006-02-28 21:34                                     ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-02-28 21:39                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-28 22:22                                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-22 12:01                     ` [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-22 12:15                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22 18:09                         ` Herbert Poetzl [this message]
2006-02-25 11:58                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-02-25 12:46                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 14:22                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 14:50                       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 15:29                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 15:40                           ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 22:01                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 22:07                               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-25 22:23                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-26 18:13                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-27  7:11                                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-02-27 12:59                                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-02-25 14:57                       ` Jesper Juhl
2006-02-15  6:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-16 23:22   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-17  1:47     ` Dmitry Torokhov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-01-24 18:19 [PATCH] Export symbols so CONFIG_INPUT works as a module Martin Michlmayr
2006-01-24 23:08 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-01-24 23:14   ` Martin Michlmayr
2006-01-25  5:04     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-02-03 22:36       ` [2.6 patch] make INPUT a bool Adrian Bunk

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