From: Suzanne Wood <suzannew@cs.pdx.edu>
To: dipankar@in.ibm.com
Cc: bunk@stusta.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, paulmck@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: 2.6.16-rc regression: m68k CONFIG_RMW_INSNS=n compile broken
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 08:13:41 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603061613.k26GDfD0017783@wezen.cs.pdx.edu> (raw)
Thank you very much.
> From dipankar@in.ibm.com Mon Mar 6 07:36:50 2006
> On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 08:44:15PM -0800, Suzanne Wood wrote:
> > > From: Adrian Bunk Fri Mar 03 2006 - 18:40:57 EST
> > >
> > Do kernel coders value the marking of the rcu read-side critical
> > section for consistency? In fs/file_table.c, fcheck_files()
> Generally speaking, yes.
> > is called by fget_light() without rcu_read_lock() in one case,
> > but with the apparently necessary rcu_read_lock() in place
> > otherwise. The struct file pointer that fcheck_files() returns
> > is rcu_dereference(fdt->fd[fd]) or NULL. Does the _commented_guarantee
> > of the current task holding the refcnt assure there's no need to
> > check for NULL or to mark the rcu readside section around the first
> > call to fcheck_files()?
> >
> > This is the code sample:
> > /*
> > * Lightweight file lookup - no refcnt increment if fd table isn't shared.
> > * You can use this only if it is guranteed that the current task already
> > * holds a refcnt to that file. That check has to be done at fget() only
> > * and a flag is returned to be passed to the corresponding fput_light().
> > * There must not be a cloning between an fget_light/fput_light pair.
> > */
> > struct file fastcall *fget_light(unsigned int fd, int *fput_needed)
> > {
> > struct file *file;
> > struct files_struct *files = current->files;
> >
> > *fput_needed = 0;
> > if (likely((atomic_read(&files->count) == 1))) {
> > file = fcheck_files(files, fd);
> > } else {
> This means that the fd table is not shared between threads. So,
> there can't be any race and no need to protect using
> rcu_read_lock()/rcu_read_unlock().
Then why call fcheck_files() with the rcu_dereference() which would flag
an automated check for the need to mark a read-side critical section?
Would it make sense to introduce the function that doesn't? The goal of
keeping the kernel small is balanced with clarity. The inconsistency of
how fcheck_files() is used within a single function (fget_light()) was
my opening question.
> > The attached patch would superficially address the rcu
> > discrepancy, but another underlying question is about the
> > desired extent of the rcu read-side critical section in that
> > fget_light() returns the pointer to the file struct that was
> > flagged for rcu protection by rcu_dereference() in
> > fcheck_files(). In this application, does it make sense to
> > push the rcu_read_lock() into fcheck_files() or add it there
> > or to extend it to the calling function?
> I think a comment there explaining why rcu_read_lock/unlock
> pair is not there should be sufficient. While the are NOP
> for non-PREEMPT kernels, they do have a cost otherwise.
> Avoiding them if we can is a good idea, IMO.
> > Up the call tree, we note that fcheck() uses fcheck_files(),
> > but the only call to fcheck() nested in rcu_read_lock() is
> > in the disparaged irixioctl.c.
> >
> > Are the other calls to fcheck() under circumstances that give
> > reason for the rcu_read_lock elision, like
> > spin_lock(&files->file_lock) in fs/fcntl.c, or being in the
> > context of applying locks in fs/locks.c, or calls from assembly
> > code in arch/sparc/kernel/sunos_ioctl.c & solaris/socksys.c.
> > If there is reason to pursue the insertion of the
> > rcu_read_lock/unlock() pairs in these circumstances, any
> > suggestions would be appreciated in order to dispel the question
> > altogether or to try to submit a more extensive patch.
> It depends on whether the fdtable is shared or not and if
> shared whether we are already holding the ->files_lock or
> not. The key is that if it is lock-free and if the fdtable
> is shared, they rcu_read_lock()/unlock() pair must be
> there, otherwise it is a bug.
> Thanks
> Dipankar
Many thanks again.
Suzanne
next reply other threads:[~2006-03-06 16:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-06 16:13 Suzanne Wood [this message]
2006-03-06 16:48 ` Dipankar Sarma
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-07 1:14 Suzanne Wood
2006-03-06 4:44 Suzanne Wood
2006-03-06 15:35 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-02-27 5:27 Linux v2.6.16-rc5 Linus Torvalds
2006-03-03 23:01 ` 2.6.16-rc regression: m68k CONFIG_RMW_INSNS=n compile broken Adrian Bunk
2006-03-03 23:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-03 23:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-03-03 23:59 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-04 14:01 ` Roman Zippel
2006-03-04 14:12 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-04 20:28 ` Andrew Morton
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