From: Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org, mingo@redhat.com,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc64-dev@ozlabs.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #2]
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 02:08:51 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060309020851.D9651@jurassic.park.msu.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17423.22121.254026.487964@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>; from paulus@samba.org on Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 09:10:49AM +1100
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 09:10:49AM +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> David Howells writes:
>
> > > # define smp_read_barrier_depends() do { } while(0)
> >
> > What's this one meant to do?
>
> On most CPUs, if you load one value and use the value you get to
> compute the address for a second load, there is an implicit read
> barrier between the two loads because of the dependency. That's not
> true on alpha, apparently, because of the way their caches are
> structured.
Who said?! ;-)
> The smp_read_barrier_depends is a read barrier that you
> use between two loads when there is already a dependency between the
> loads, and it is a no-op on everything except alpha (IIRC).
My "Compiler Writer's Guide for the Alpha 21264" says that if the
result of the first load contributes to the address calculation
of the second load, then the second load cannot issue until the data
from the first load is available.
Obviously, we don't care about earlier alphas as they are executing
strictly in program order.
Ivan.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-08 23:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-07 17:40 [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers David Howells
2006-03-07 10:34 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-07 17:47 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-03-07 18:30 ` David Howells
2006-03-07 11:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-07 18:46 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-03-07 19:23 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-03-07 11:57 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-07 20:01 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-03-07 21:14 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-03-07 21:24 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-08 0:36 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-08 0:35 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-07 19:24 ` David Howells
2006-03-07 19:46 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-03-07 18:40 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-07 18:54 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-03-07 19:06 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-03-07 19:15 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-03-09 11:26 ` Sergei Organov
2006-03-07 19:33 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-07 20:09 ` David Howells
2006-03-08 0:32 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-08 8:25 ` Duncan Sands
2006-03-08 22:06 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-08 22:24 ` David S. Miller
2006-03-08 22:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-08 22:42 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-08 2:07 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-08 3:10 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-08 3:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-08 7:41 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-08 12:34 ` David Howells
2006-03-08 16:40 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-03-08 13:19 ` David Howells
2006-03-08 21:49 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-08 22:05 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-10 0:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-03-08 14:37 ` [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #2] David Howells
2006-03-08 14:55 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-08 15:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-03-08 17:19 ` David Howells
2006-03-08 22:10 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-08 23:08 ` Ivan Kokshaysky [this message]
2006-03-09 1:01 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-09 16:02 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2006-03-08 22:01 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-08 22:23 ` David S. Miller
2006-03-08 17:04 ` David Howells
2006-03-08 17:36 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-08 18:35 ` David Howells
2006-03-08 18:45 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-08 18:59 ` David Howells
2006-03-08 11:38 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-08 19:08 ` David Howells
2006-03-08 19:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-08 19:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-03-09 0:37 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-09 0:59 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-03-09 1:36 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-09 4:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-03-08 19:54 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-03-08 20:02 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-08 19:31 ` David Howells
2006-03-09 0:35 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-09 0:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-09 1:08 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-09 1:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-09 2:38 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-09 3:45 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-09 4:36 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-03-09 7:41 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-09 5:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-09 11:44 ` Michael Buesch
2006-03-09 12:27 ` David Howells
2006-03-09 4:34 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-03-09 4:43 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-09 10:05 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-03-09 0:55 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-03-09 1:57 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-09 4:26 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-03-09 12:02 ` Sergei Organov
2006-03-08 16:18 ` [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers Pavel Machek
2006-03-08 16:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-08 17:35 ` David Howells
2006-03-08 17:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-08 17:59 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-08 19:37 ` [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #3] David Howells
2006-03-08 20:16 ` [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers David Howells
2006-03-08 22:01 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-09 11:41 ` David Howells
2006-03-09 12:28 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-09 13:02 ` David Howells
2006-03-09 16:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-09 17:39 ` David Howells
2006-03-09 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-09 17:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-09 14:01 ` [PATCH] Document Linux's memory barriers [try #3] David Howells
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